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LF-D291 SCSI DVD-RAM

Unread postby zahal » Fri Aug 05, 2005 4:20 pm

Hello,
I'm about to purchase a panasonic LF-D291 scsi dvd-ram.
Does anyone have any experience with this model?

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Unread postby zahal » Tue Aug 23, 2005 12:13 am

Update:

I finally got the DVD-RAM. Upgraded the firmware (from A-130 to A-150) on a pee-cee. Drive works great in the pee-cee. I will attach it to the o2 and start making tests.
Sitting in a room.....thinkin' shit up. :evil:

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Unread postby TeeTylerToe » Tue Aug 23, 2005 9:13 am

there's a document in techpubs that I found a while ago that had, iirc, some good tips about dvd-ram use. I posted it here somewhere, but that's all I remember.

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Unread postby zahal » Wed Aug 24, 2005 1:44 pm

Update:

I installed the LF-D291 on a Sun 611 case and hooked it up to the o2 (6.5.22).

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negev 13% hinv -mv
CPU: MIPS R5000 Processor Chip Revision: 10.0
FPU: MIPS R5000 Floating Point Coprocessor Revision: 10.0
1 300 MHZ IP32 Processor
Main memory size: 1024 Mbytes
Secondary unified instruction/data cache size: 1 Mbyte on Processor 0
Instruction cache size: 32 Kbytes
Data cache size: 32 Kbytes
FLASH PROM version 4.18
Integral SCSI controller 0: Version ADAPTEC 7880
  Disk drive: unit 1 on SCSI controller 0 (unit 1)
  CDROM: unit 4 on SCSI controller 0
Integral SCSI controller 1: Version ADAPTEC 7880
  CDROM: unit 4 on SCSI controller 1
On-board serial ports: tty1
On-board serial ports: tty2
On-board EPP/ECP parallel port
CRM graphics installed
Integral Ethernet: ec0, version 1
Iris Audio Processor: version A3 revision 0
  PCI Adapter ID (vendor 0x9004, device 0x8078) PCI slot 1
  PCI Adapter ID (vendor 0x9004, device 0x8078) PCI slot 2
  PCI Adapter ID (vendor 0x11c1, device 0x5811) PCI slot 3
Video: MVP unit 0 version 1.4
AV: AV1 Card version 1, O2Cam type 1 version 0 connected.
Vice: TRE
Dual Channel Display


Yes, that's an Adaptec FireConnect on PCI slot3 (sadly, unrecognized since I'm only at 6.5.22).

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negev 1# cdrecord -scanbus
Cdrecord-Clone 2.01 (mips-sgi-irix6.5) Copyright (C) 1995-2004 Jörg Schilling
Using libscg version 'schily-0.8'.
scsibus0:
        0,0,0     0) *
        0,1,0     1) 'HP 36.4G' 'ST336706LC      ' 'HP04' Disk
        0,2,0     2) *
        0,3,0     3) *
        0,4,0     4) 'TOSHIBA ' 'DVD-ROM SD-M1401' '1F09' Removable CD-ROM
        0,5,0     5) *
        0,6,0     6) *
        0,7,0     7) *
scsibus1:
        1,0,0   100) *
        1,1,0   101) *
        1,2,0   102) *
        1,3,0   103) *
        1,4,0   104) 'MATSHITA' 'DVD-RAM LF-D200 ' 'A150' Removable CD-ROM
        1,5,0   105) *
        1,6,0   106) *
        1,7,0   107) *



Nice, DVD-ROM and 9.4GB DVD-RAM !

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negev 5# scgcheck
Scgcheck 2.01 (mips-sgi-irix6.5) SCSI user level transport library ABI checker.
Copyright (C) 1998,2001 Jörg Schilling
Checking if your implementation supports to scan the SCSI bus.
Trying to open device: '(NULL POINTER)'.
Using libscg version 'schily-0.8'
Max DMA buffer size: 262144
scsibus0:
        0,0,0     0) *
        0,1,0     1) 'HP 36.4G' 'ST336706LC      ' 'HP04' Disk
        0,2,0     2) *
        0,3,0     3) *
        0,4,0     4) 'TOSHIBA ' 'DVD-ROM SD-M1401' '1F09' Removable CD-ROM
        0,5,0     5) *
        0,6,0     6) *
        0,7,0     7) *
scsibus1:
        1,0,0   100) *
        1,1,0   101) *
        1,2,0   102) *
        1,3,0   103) *
        1,4,0   104) 'MATSHITA' 'DVD-RAM LF-D200 ' 'A150' Removable CD-ROM
        1,5,0   105) *
        1,6,0   106) *
        1,7,0   107) *
----------> SCSI scan bus test PASSED
For the next test we need to open a single SCSI device.
Best results will be obtained if you specify a modern CD-ROM drive.
Enter SCSI device name [0,6,0]: 1,4,0
Trying to open device: '1,4,0'.
Using libscg version 'schily-0.8'
Max DMA buffer size: 262144
Device type    : Removable CD-ROM
Version        : 4
Response Format: 2
Capabilities   : SYNC
Vendor_info    : 'MATSHITA'
Identifikation : 'DVD-RAM LF-D200 '
Revision       : 'A150'
Ready to start test for second SCSI open? Enter <CR> to continue:
First SCSI open OK - device usable


I tried CDs, DVDs...all worked fine.
Then I tried a DVD-RAM cartridge. Desktop icon seemed to have mounted, but double-clicking it gave a message "still not able to determine type of filesystem" or something along those lines.
So I tried to format, but it would spit out messages about how to use the command.
Tried command line "formatRMedia", with HFS, and FAT, but it would only do something if format type was xfs or efs. It would start to format, then spit out some error message.
Turns out both sides of the cartridge were formated as FAT32. I hooked the drive to a pee-cee (can I call it mactel??) and formated both sides as UDF 2.0.

Hooked the drive back to the o2, and inserted the cartridge. It mounted right away!
Drag and drop works fine, I moved several files to the DVD-RAM without any trouble at all.
Seems like this drive is "irix friendly" !!

Total success so far! I believe there's one for sale on eBay right now. Mine is beige (black looks nicer!)
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Sitting in a room.....thinkin' shit up. :evil:

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Cool!

Unread postby GeneratriX » Wed Aug 24, 2005 1:54 pm

zahal wrote:I hooked the drive to a pee-cee (can I call it mactel??) and formated both sides as UDF 2.0.

Hooked the drive back to the o2, and inserted the cartridge. It mounted right away!
Drag and drop works fine, I moved several files to the DVD-RAM without any trouble at all.
Seems like this drive is "irix friendly" !!

Total success so far!


Cool!; So, this was the trick, huhh? :roll: ...I've used a Toshiba DVD-RAM without too much success on my O2, and I've always wondered what could be the result if instead of use the IRIX tools, were formating the media on a PeeCee... now, you confirms my suspictions! Good to know!, Then one only has to recall to buy UDF 2.0 preformatted media, or just to format then on a PeeCee!
Nice investigation work, Zahal! ;)

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Unread postby zahal » Wed Aug 24, 2005 2:47 pm

I did a quick benchmark test:
Copying the following file (81mb) from hard drive to DVD-RAM:

81032646 Aug 7 00:10 visit1_4_4.irix6.tar.gz

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negev 18# time cp visit1_4_4.irix6.tar.gz /CDROM2
0.024u 6.425s 0:11.62 55.4% 0+0k 1242+129io 1pf+0w


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Re: Cool!

Unread postby zahal » Sun Aug 28, 2005 5:59 pm

GeneratriX wrote:I've used a Toshiba DVD-RAM without too much success on my O2, and I've always wondered what could be the result if instead of use the IRIX tools, were formating the media on a PeeCee... now, you confirms my suspictions!


I don't know if using "fx" one can format a DVD-RAM. I have used "fx" to format 230MB MOs (on a olympus 230mb MO drive), and it worked fine on a o2. I'm getting some more DVD-RAM cartridges tomorrow, and I'll try to format them with "fx" and see if that works (I already filled up the one that came with the drive). I also have 640MB MO drives (Fujitsu MCE3064SS) which I haven't hooked up to the o2 yet (I installed one internally on my maxed out Mystic ColorClassic replacing the floppy drive).
Buy you are right, using a peecee for a few tasks is inevitable. I finally sucumbed and got me a PC. Seems it was the only way (or easiest way) to upgrade firmware in the DVD-RAM, and also on some PCI cards...
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Unread postby TeeTylerToe » Sun Aug 28, 2005 7:11 pm

http://techpubs.sgi.com/library/tpl/cgi ... z&srch=udf
that might help, couldn't find the one I remember.

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re: LF-D291 SCSI DVD-RAM

Unread postby recondas » Mon Oct 31, 2005 7:34 pm

I picked up a LaCie SCSI DVD-RAM drive with a Matshita (Panasonic) LF-D201 mechanism <the drive comes in a blue case that looks like it was meant to go w/ an o2 or 02k :wink: > . I ran up on this tread and found zahal had already done all the heavy lifting necessary to get the drive working under IRIX.

One minor <non-functional> addition. Some of the Panasonic LF-D2xx series require a DVD-RAM cartridge in order for the drive to function in write/re-write mode. Locally the cartridge disks are somewhat harder to come by and more expensive.

While searching for a firmware update, I discovered Panasonic has a downloadable utility that will allow LF-D2xx and LF-D3xx (4.7gig) drives to write to non-cartridge DVD-RAM disks. There's also a UDF format utility, a tool to set dvd region and test/copy DVD-RAM disks. The software is windows only, the XP version is here:
http://panasonic.co.jp/psec/support/dvd ... ownxp.html

<zahal - where did you find you firmware update?>

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Unread postby hamei » Wed Nov 02, 2005 9:00 pm

recondas wrote:I picked up a LaCie SCSI DVD-RAM drive with a Matshita (Panasonic) LF-201 mechanism <the drive comes in a blue case that looks like it was meant to go w/ an o2 or 02k :wink: > .


Ahh, so *you* bought that drive. Good going, we need more people to take risks with unknown equipment and report back :-)

So far I can tell you that a firewire LaCie external on a Fuel at 6.5.21 doesn't work :-(

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Unread postby recondas » Thu Nov 03, 2005 1:10 pm

hamei wrote:Ahh, so *you* bought that drive. Good going, we need more people to take risks with unknown equipment and report back :-)


I picked it locally - as noted above 'drag and drop' copying works flawlessly. IRIX (6.5.22) identifies it as a CD-ROM on the desktop and via hinv - tho it does load a dvd icon when I put a disk in and "get info" shows the correct disk size. The right click menu evens offers a 'format dvd' menu option, and warns "you can create only a UDF filesystem on a DVD-RAM". XCDRoast <a fairly old 0.98alpha revision> identifies it as a DVD-RAM but doesn't allow it to be selected as a writer.

So far I can tell you that a firewire LaCie external on a Fuel at 6.5.21 doesn't work :-(


I have a smal variety of external firewire devices - if I can find the 'correct' pci firewire card I'll test it in the o2k just to see what happens. <it's running 6.5.28>

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Unread postby zahal » Thu Nov 03, 2005 10:45 pm

recondas wrote:
While searching for a firmware update, I discovered Panasonic has a downloadable utility that will allow LF-D2xx and LF-D3xx (4.7gig) drives to write to non-cartridge DVD-RAM disks. There's also a UDF format utility, a tool to set dvd region and test/copy DVD-RAM disks. The software is windows only, the XP version is here:
http://panasonic.co.jp/psec/support/dvd ... ownxp.html

<zahal - where did you find you firmware update?>


Yes, and some DVD-RAM cartridges have removable disks which can be used on drives that dont physically accept a cartridge.
Where did I find that firmware update....I must have googled a while before finding it. I'm almost sure I must have found the firmware in one of those pages that have loads of rpc-1 firmware for all kinds of dvd drives. Actually, I *think* this was the page:

http://forum.rpc1.org/portal.php

yup, that's the page.
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Unread postby recondas » Fri Nov 04, 2005 2:08 pm

zahal wrote: Actually, I *think* this was the page:

http://forum.rpc1.org/portal.php

yup, that's the page.


Got it - and thank you on both counts


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