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Unread postPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2003 5:27 am 
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Check out the e-mail that Jodeman got from SGI (grabbed this link from comp.sys.sgi.misc):

http://www.mesa-sys.com/sgi/index.html


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Unread postPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2003 5:36 am 
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Wow, I haven't gotten anything like that (yet) - I guess I better take some steps and remove the ghosted SGI logo from the site banners and add a disclaimer. I'll do that today.

Edit: Okay, done - hopefully that will keep me off their legal radar. Better safe than sorry.

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Unread postPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2003 6:24 am 
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I'm not pulling the logo's off mine until they write me about it.

You would think that Sgi's legal department would have all the work they need with the SCO crap to bother with a site that is promoting Sgi hardware. It's not like he was selling Sgi hardware and only a moron would think that he was connected with Sgi......actually most people in the legal profession are morons aren't they.


/rant, but I'm still pissed off. Can't you tell I'm so fond of f*****g lawyers.


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I completely agree - Jodeman's site has been around for six years now - and SGI decides now to make a stink about it when they arguably need this sort of promotion the most. It's amazing the lengths some corporations will go to ensure their own demise.

I have to wonder now - is this the reason http://www.sgiaddict.net shut down?

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Unread postPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2003 6:58 am 
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I have to wonder now - is this the reason http://www.sgiaddict.net shut down?


oh i expect so, just to add to the whole thing about lawyers i have never found a single law student at uni that i liked, one of them accally insulted my girlfriend when i was in dorms and to put it this way the toilet he was squatted on after my stunt won't forget him in a hurry ;)

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That is just plain crap! I cannot belive the lack of appreciation for free advertising. It's almost as if they fell like they don't want/need any help staying afloat.


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How can they do that?

How can a company complain about free advertising?

I don't understand th logic behind this... :?


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Neko, does this mean you and i have to go through the entire site to "fix" SGI into SGI(tm) and Indy to Indy(tm) ?

OMG...

Well if we need to, we can work out some planning, so let me know when you receive that letter, okay :)


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Well I haven't received anything, so hopefully not. If i do receive something to that effect we'll have to go through and make the changes.

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So... maybe we should start posting things about SGI(tm)(r)(c) workstations like the Octane(tm)(r)(c) with SE(tm)(r)(c) gfx more carefully?

No, I´m not joking, should we all be on the safe side and start using these (tm) things? I find it disturbing though, and no offence to the US citizens on the board, but having to add (tm) to stuff when writing about it just plainly sucks.

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A disclaimer in the style of "The trademarks SGI and Silicon Graphics are owned by the-building-with-that-funny-cube-at-the-parking-lot-at-Mountain-View-Schwarzeneggerland" should suffice. They cannot put a trademark claim on colors like Indigo and Crimson, or Gems like Onyx, or molecules like Octane.

And what about http://www.sgi.org, the Soka Gakkai International organization? I know they can use it because they are a non profit organisation, but hey we can make a non profit organisation like Shinycomputer Geeks International.

Or change out forum conversation into talks about world peace, which we occasionally do anyway (no honest :wink: )

Atleast the very visible things like SGI logo and the acronym are not appearing on any nekochan page, except maybe the galleries. So hopefully they pass us over.


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...sometimes it's hard not to go GNU/Linux/BSD...was R.Stallman such a visionary that he foresaw all of this intellectual property wrangling sucking the fun out of computing?


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I'm sure to get flack from this but: having dealt with legal entities inside large corporations this is a missive is a well worded respectfull request for jodeman to respect sgi's documented copyrights, and branding (as the say). you can't be a groupie if you don't respect the firm,
this is an aspect of the firm., respect it.


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You have a valid point, Sky. We still do respect SGI, maybe not wholeheartedly for what it stands for presently, but surely for what it stood for in the nineties.

It's just hard for people like us to remove the oh so recognisable logo's and symbols from our websites of a company, who put advanced graphics,modelling, visualisation and "no-beige" hardware so much in the forefront, because most of these people are very visually oriented, like here at nekochan the 3D artists, programmers and such. That is why we're not fond of losing those visual aspects.

O well, all things will pass...


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It was easy to scrub the banner - it was done with Photoshop and the cube logo was on a separate layer - I just hid the layer and exported it. It really doesn't look much different anyway.

Looking around some of the other SGI hobbyist sites today I've noticed that the ones that are still up have purged their cubes as well.

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