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Tezro wanted

Unread postby seldon » Fri Aug 11, 2017 11:13 pm

Hi there!

New here, but really thrilled by the love of SGI around the forum! Such nostalgia just warms my heart! :D
I am looking for a Tezro workstation to have as a reminder of the "SGI years" of my life.. :Tezro:

It can be the simplest config possible, as long as it is in good shape... I don't necessarily plan to run anything fancy on it at this point, but mostly have it for display, and turn it on ever so often to hear it purr, and play with Irix.

I've seen some AWFUL ones on sale, so badly scratched and scuffed it made me cringe! (whoever treated those machines like that did not deserve them in the first place!)

Been searching online, but this forum seemed to be a place where I could find like-minded folk who could appreciate my goal.

Thanks for reading, and for any help you may provide!

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Re: Tezro wanted

Unread postby Y888099 » Sat Aug 12, 2017 4:17 am

You have more chance to find one on ebay, I mean usually people report here auctions, thus keep on eye on it.

seldon wrote:the "SGI years" of my life.. :Tezro:


That's interesting. Did you happen to have some business with SGI machine? I know a pair of guys who worked in the TV broadcasting area, they said they professionally worked on visual effects.

Autodesk Software on SGI hardware. Probably a Tezro setup.
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Re: Tezro wanted

Unread postby Irinikus » Sat Aug 12, 2017 5:45 am

You may get lucky, but good examples of these machines seem to be extremely hard to acquire, and I seriously doubt whether anyone on this site would be willing to part with a Tezro thats in good condition!

It literally took me 5 years of running a search on eBay every day to find the right machine for me form a seller who made use of a shipping option that suited me! (They always seem to be for sale in other countries without an international shipping option!)

My advise to you is to set up a permanent search for a Tezro on eBay. (Just be aware that if a nice machine had to come up, you have to act extremely quickly, as they usually sell in a matter of minutes or hours.) I literally bought mine, the minute I saw it!
:Onyx2:Quad R14K 500MHz, IR3, DG5-8 :Tezro:Quad R16K 700MHz, 8MB, V12, DCD, DM3 :Octane2:Dual R14K 600MHz, PCI Card Cage, V12 :320:Dual 1GHz PIII
:O2:R12K 400MHz, DCD :Indigo:R4400SC 150MHz, ELAN :Indigo2:R4400SC 200MHz, Extreme :Indy:R4400SC 200MHz, XZ :Indy:R5000SC 150MHz, 24Bit XL.
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Re: Tezro wanted

Unread postby Y888099 » Sat Aug 12, 2017 8:20 am

Irinikus wrote:of a shipping option that suited me! (They always seem to be for sale in other countries without an international shipping option!


As professional seller I can tell that there are problems with the typical ebay's customer. They want cheap options that doesn't usually include insurance, and they want to pay with paypal which adds more costs for the seller and a viral duty if something goes wrong during the shipping.

New rules (as well as the "ebay protection program) claim that the seller is responsible for everything in a way that if the customer wants to return the purchase then ebay allow him/her to do so within a windows of one week since received, and forces the seller to accept the return at a partial cost.

It means: the seller pays for the shipping to customer, the customer pays the shipping back. Paypal has the full control of your credit account, thus you must refund.

Thus, considering that shipping abroad with cheap services is like looking for problems (with Ecoparcel, for example, I had 2 parcels lost on five, and I am still waiting for their money back), and that if something wrong happens you have your goods potentially damaged wasted by the last idiot on ebay(1) ... I would say that is not a good business unless you fine a good kind of customers.

(1) those that voluntary damage something, and then claim that it was seller's fault, thus they claim to ebay who opens a paypal dispute, and the seller has to refund, and you can't call the lawyer if the customer is out of Europe.

Lesson learned when I said bye bye to 2K euro of goods shipped in China.
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Re: Tezro wanted

Unread postby Irinikus » Sat Aug 12, 2017 8:29 am

I was prepared to pay whatever price was required for the best shipping option available.

For those of you who don't already know, eBay's Global Shipping Program is the best shipping service to use, if shipping from the US of the UK, as FedEx carries out the final delivery in the destination country.

In my experience, it's been the least painful shipping service that I've had!

Nowadays I will generally not buy an item, unless it's going to be shipped via the Global Shipping Program!

The most I've ever paid for the shipping of an item was $1500!

And if that item was shipped via the Global Shipping Program it would have probably cost about $400 to ship!
:Onyx2:Quad R14K 500MHz, IR3, DG5-8 :Tezro:Quad R16K 700MHz, 8MB, V12, DCD, DM3 :Octane2:Dual R14K 600MHz, PCI Card Cage, V12 :320:Dual 1GHz PIII
:O2:R12K 400MHz, DCD :Indigo:R4400SC 150MHz, ELAN :Indigo2:R4400SC 200MHz, Extreme :Indy:R4400SC 200MHz, XZ :Indy:R5000SC 150MHz, 24Bit XL.
SUN..................JavaStation-10 (Krups); XVR-4000.
|d|i|g|i|t|a|l|...AlphaStation 255/300MHz.
Cray..................Cray1: Memory Module; Cray2: Memory Module (complete stack of eight boards) and a power supply module; Cray3: ECL Module.
Apple................G3 Clamshell; G4 Sawtooth; G4 Quicksilver; G4 Mirror Doors; G5; Mac Pro 2013 (Trash can); 27 inch Cinema Display.
IBM..................486 DX-4 100MHz, 32Mb RAM, Creative Soundblaster 16-Bit, 1.44 Mb Disk drive, Creative 4X CD-ROM, 520Mb HDD.

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Re: Tezro wanted

Unread postby Y888099 » Sat Aug 12, 2017 8:37 am

Irinikus wrote:I was prepared to pay whatever price was required for the best shipping option available


Frankly the typical ebay user (as well as the typical neko-user) does not want to pay for UPS because it's considered too expensive.

It's a bit irritating, as it's irritating since you have to explain the same point again and again to people who doesn't want to listen to, but they have their reasons, so ... no party.

Irinikus wrote:eBay's Global Shipping Program is the best shipping service to use


bah, someone has recently reported that it was not so good.
I can't judge. I don't have direct experiences.

It's subjected to the ebay protection project, anyway, thus the seller is subjected to what I wrote above.
I would say it's a risk if the customer doesn't accept to sign and pay for an insurance.

When I buy something, I usually ask for UPS if available.
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Re: Tezro wanted

Unread postby Irinikus » Sat Aug 12, 2017 8:41 am

I have literally had about 20 items shipped to me via this service and I've never had a bad experience.

However, that may not have been everybody's experience.
:Onyx2:Quad R14K 500MHz, IR3, DG5-8 :Tezro:Quad R16K 700MHz, 8MB, V12, DCD, DM3 :Octane2:Dual R14K 600MHz, PCI Card Cage, V12 :320:Dual 1GHz PIII
:O2:R12K 400MHz, DCD :Indigo:R4400SC 150MHz, ELAN :Indigo2:R4400SC 200MHz, Extreme :Indy:R4400SC 200MHz, XZ :Indy:R5000SC 150MHz, 24Bit XL.
SUN..................JavaStation-10 (Krups); XVR-4000.
|d|i|g|i|t|a|l|...AlphaStation 255/300MHz.
Cray..................Cray1: Memory Module; Cray2: Memory Module (complete stack of eight boards) and a power supply module; Cray3: ECL Module.
Apple................G3 Clamshell; G4 Sawtooth; G4 Quicksilver; G4 Mirror Doors; G5; Mac Pro 2013 (Trash can); 27 inch Cinema Display.
IBM..................486 DX-4 100MHz, 32Mb RAM, Creative Soundblaster 16-Bit, 1.44 Mb Disk drive, Creative 4X CD-ROM, 520Mb HDD.

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Re: Tezro wanted

Unread postby Y888099 » Sat Aug 12, 2017 8:44 am

Irinikus wrote:I have literally had about 20 items shipped to me


So, you might want to search for the topic appeared in this forum.
Board index/Bazaar/Hardware For Sale/Trade/Beware of eBay's Global Shipping Program
Just as reference.
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Re: Tezro wanted

Unread postby Irinikus » Sat Aug 12, 2017 9:14 am

That was a rather terrible experience for the members involved, I sincerely hope it never happens to me.

Its terrible to get caught up in bureaucracy, as there is usually no easy way out!

I suppose that when the system works, all is well, but if a problem occurs then it's hell to sort out due to all of the bureaucracy involved!

Luckily for me, my Tezro arrived perfectly via this service!
:Onyx2:Quad R14K 500MHz, IR3, DG5-8 :Tezro:Quad R16K 700MHz, 8MB, V12, DCD, DM3 :Octane2:Dual R14K 600MHz, PCI Card Cage, V12 :320:Dual 1GHz PIII
:O2:R12K 400MHz, DCD :Indigo:R4400SC 150MHz, ELAN :Indigo2:R4400SC 200MHz, Extreme :Indy:R4400SC 200MHz, XZ :Indy:R5000SC 150MHz, 24Bit XL.
SUN..................JavaStation-10 (Krups); XVR-4000.
|d|i|g|i|t|a|l|...AlphaStation 255/300MHz.
Cray..................Cray1: Memory Module; Cray2: Memory Module (complete stack of eight boards) and a power supply module; Cray3: ECL Module.
Apple................G3 Clamshell; G4 Sawtooth; G4 Quicksilver; G4 Mirror Doors; G5; Mac Pro 2013 (Trash can); 27 inch Cinema Display.
IBM..................486 DX-4 100MHz, 32Mb RAM, Creative Soundblaster 16-Bit, 1.44 Mb Disk drive, Creative 4X CD-ROM, 520Mb HDD.

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Re: Tezro wanted

Unread postby MrBill » Sun Aug 13, 2017 9:01 am

I have not gotten much use of my second tezro. I ran into an issue where my monitors were displaying out of range, so i was using them in a headless manner with a terminal attached. I can fire them both up, get a hardware inventory, and see if either would be of interest to you. I know for sure that they both have bad Dallas clock batteries. You can fire up the systems and set the date fine, but if you loose power you have to re enter all the boot info.

I am quite busy. It will take a while to get the info, so bare with me.
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Re: Tezro wanted

Unread postby jan-jaap » Sun Aug 13, 2017 9:18 am

Irinikus wrote:I have literally had about 20 items shipped to me

I still have a set of 19" alloy wheels that were sent to me when all I was expecting was a 13w3 sync converter :)
Unfortunately (1) there's not much I can do with 2 alloys and (2) I have no car that fits them so for the time being they just sit somewhere ...

I received my 13w3 converter in the end so I'm happy, but I guess the guy who ordered the wheels might be less satisfied.
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Re: Tezro wanted

Unread postby Irinikus » Sun Aug 13, 2017 9:31 am

jan-jaap wrote:
Irinikus wrote:I have literally had about 20 items shipped to me

I still have a set of 19" alloy wheels that were sent to me when all I was expecting was a 13w3 sync converter :)
Unfortunately (1) there's not much I can do with 2 alloys and (2) I have no car that fits them so for the time being they just sit somewhere ...

I received my 13w3 converter in the end so I'm happy, but I guess the guy who ordered the wheels might be less satisfied.


That's one pretty crazy situation! :shock:

Confirm that the Alloy wheels were sent to you by the same seller that sent you the 13w3 converter? Thats just crazy! :lol:
:Onyx2:Quad R14K 500MHz, IR3, DG5-8 :Tezro:Quad R16K 700MHz, 8MB, V12, DCD, DM3 :Octane2:Dual R14K 600MHz, PCI Card Cage, V12 :320:Dual 1GHz PIII
:O2:R12K 400MHz, DCD :Indigo:R4400SC 150MHz, ELAN :Indigo2:R4400SC 200MHz, Extreme :Indy:R4400SC 200MHz, XZ :Indy:R5000SC 150MHz, 24Bit XL.
SUN..................JavaStation-10 (Krups); XVR-4000.
|d|i|g|i|t|a|l|...AlphaStation 255/300MHz.
Cray..................Cray1: Memory Module; Cray2: Memory Module (complete stack of eight boards) and a power supply module; Cray3: ECL Module.
Apple................G3 Clamshell; G4 Sawtooth; G4 Quicksilver; G4 Mirror Doors; G5; Mac Pro 2013 (Trash can); 27 inch Cinema Display.
IBM..................486 DX-4 100MHz, 32Mb RAM, Creative Soundblaster 16-Bit, 1.44 Mb Disk drive, Creative 4X CD-ROM, 520Mb HDD.

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Re: Tezro wanted

Unread postby jan-jaap » Sun Aug 13, 2017 9:59 am

Irinikus wrote:Confirm that the Alloy wheels were sent to you by the same seller

They were not, and that's the problem with eBay GS. Essentially, a seller ships his gear to an eBay GS warehouse, they re-label it and pass it on. Except (obviously) their re-labeling is not flawless. So instead of one a small(ish) box, I received 30kg of alu in two large boxes. I have no desire to pay for return shipping, and not even an address to send it to.

Fortunately for me (and I cannot explain why) I received the actual item I bought two days later.

I was lucky. Someone else wasn't.
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Re: Tezro wanted

Unread postby Irinikus » Sun Aug 13, 2017 10:17 am

jan-jaap wrote:
Irinikus wrote:Confirm that the Alloy wheels were sent to you by the same seller

They were not, and that's the problem with eBay GS. Essentially, a seller ships his gear to an eBay GS warehouse, they re-label it and pass it on. Except (obviously) their re-labeling is not flawless.


Hopefully that kind of mistake doesn't happen that frequently!

Sadly to say, its a human factor: People make mistakes, it's as simple as that! (all it take is time)

Unfortunately in the case of sort facilities it's not possible to eliminate the human component at this point, so mishaps are inevitable from time to time.

They just need to introduce a system that handles things better when mistakes do occur!
:Onyx2:Quad R14K 500MHz, IR3, DG5-8 :Tezro:Quad R16K 700MHz, 8MB, V12, DCD, DM3 :Octane2:Dual R14K 600MHz, PCI Card Cage, V12 :320:Dual 1GHz PIII
:O2:R12K 400MHz, DCD :Indigo:R4400SC 150MHz, ELAN :Indigo2:R4400SC 200MHz, Extreme :Indy:R4400SC 200MHz, XZ :Indy:R5000SC 150MHz, 24Bit XL.
SUN..................JavaStation-10 (Krups); XVR-4000.
|d|i|g|i|t|a|l|...AlphaStation 255/300MHz.
Cray..................Cray1: Memory Module; Cray2: Memory Module (complete stack of eight boards) and a power supply module; Cray3: ECL Module.
Apple................G3 Clamshell; G4 Sawtooth; G4 Quicksilver; G4 Mirror Doors; G5; Mac Pro 2013 (Trash can); 27 inch Cinema Display.
IBM..................486 DX-4 100MHz, 32Mb RAM, Creative Soundblaster 16-Bit, 1.44 Mb Disk drive, Creative 4X CD-ROM, 520Mb HDD.


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