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Unread postPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 6:18 pm 
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this is a really dumb question, but Mom has a Mac of some sort - all built into the monitor, must be fairly new. I took over a Nelson Eddy movie and stuck it in. She didn't even know there was a cd-rom slot :)

The Mac immediately spit it out. Hmm. Assist had her Mac laptop along with, so I stuck it into that. Same result. Tried double-clicking on the drive icon before it had time to spit out the dvd, no help there either. Okay, must be a bad dvd (we get those frequently.)

Came back home, stuck it into the Fool, up comes the DVD sign over the cd drive icon, click that baby, here's the AUDIO_TS and VIDEO-TS folders, go into VIDEO-TS and drag the VTS_01_1.VOB onto the mplayer icon, away she goes. Claude Rains strangling M. Pleyel in glorious Technicolor. (fu, how come modern movies all look so washed-out ? This Technicolor thing is fantastic.)

Anyway, who do two Macintoshes refuse to even see a DVD that plays fine in Irix ? I'm thinking region codes maybe ? (the Assist's laptop came from the US as well) but pretty sure this DVD doesn't have a region code. Any idears ?


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Unread postPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 6:53 pm 
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because you didn't buy the film on itunes :P

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Unread postPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 9:53 pm 
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hamei wrote:
Mom has a Mac of some sort - all built into the monitor, must be fairly new


They've been building Macs into the monitor since ... 1984 :)

Chances are that's an older Mac with a CD/CD-R drive.

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Unread postPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 11:57 pm 
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hamei wrote:
[...]here's the AUDIO_TS and VIDEO-TS folders, go into VIDEO-TS [...] Any idears ?

That should have been "VIDEO_TS" (with an underscore).

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Unread postPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 2:51 am 
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Jeeze, you people are mean, pickin' on a old guy like that :(

I think it's newer than 1984, 'cuz the monitor looks like a 24" lcd ... but it could have been an Advanced Systems Division prototype, I guess :)

And ja, it really is VIDEO_TS, my finger just couldn't hold the underscore key down. It's the old war wounds acting up ....

No ideas, tho ? If you stick a standard dvd movie into a late-model Mac, it doesn't just play ?


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Unread postPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 3:08 am 
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hamei wrote:
No ideas, tho ? If you stick a standard dvd movie into a late-model Mac, it doesn't just play ?


It will play if it actually has a DVD drive, but you'd need to confirm that :)

Here's an example 'System Information' entry for the optical drives in my Mac Pro:

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Disc Burning:

TSSTcorp CDDVDW SH-S222L:

  Firmware Revision:   SB03
  Interconnect:   ATAPI
  Burn Support:   Yes (Generic Drive Support)
  Profile Path:   None
  Cache:   2048 KB
  Reads DVD:   Yes
  CD-Write:   -R, -RW
  DVD-Write:   -R, -R DL, -RAM, -RW, -RW DL, +R, +R DL, +RW
  Write Strategies:   CD-TAO, CD-SAO, CD-Raw, DVD-DAO
  Media:   To show the available burn speeds, insert a disc and choose View > Refresh

HL-DT-ST BD-RE  WH08LS20:

  Firmware Revision:   2.00
  Interconnect:   ATAPI
  Burn Support:   Yes (Generic Drive Support)
  Profile Path:   None
  Cache:   4096 KB
  Reads DVD:   Yes
  CD-Write:   -R, -RW
  DVD-Write:   -R, -R DL, -RAM, -RW, +R, +R DL, +RW
  BD-Write:   -R, -RE
  Write Strategies:   CD-TAO, CD-SAO, CD-Raw, DVD-DAO
  Media:   To show the available burn speeds, insert a disc and choose View > Refresh

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Unread postPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 4:41 am 
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There are white iMacs with big screens that are quite old now. Chances are if it supports DVDs, it might just not like your DVD because the media is too new or something (dual layer? rw?).

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Unread postPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 6:28 am 
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since the disc gets ejected at once i'd check for drive capabilities like the guys said

auto play can be disabled via system preferences:

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neko's tip comes from About This Mac-->More Info:

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if the mac can run 10.4+ check DVD RegionCode Unlock & Fairmount



hamei wrote:
..Nelson Eddy movie...in glorious Technicolor.

sweethearts?

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(fu, how come modern movies all look so washed-out ? This Technicolor thing is fantastic.)

there's a thing in tinseltown called straight-to-video/dvd productions. it's getting old and will probably get renamed to straight-to-hell cause people these days think they can watch a movie on freakin phone (4'' screen glory, talk about proportions). oh yeah and everyone is compressing everything in order to fit everywhere :evil:


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Unread postPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 7:43 pm 
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fu wrote:
neko's tip comes from About This Mac-->More Info:

Ah, grazie, grazie. There are some differences in our systems, as you can see ....
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fu wrote:
if the mac can run 10.4+ check DVD RegionCode Unlock & Fairmount

that sounds like the next thing to look into ... under intense cross-examination the Assist revealed that yes indeed, she had come across other dvd's that acted this same way.

Now all I have to do is figure out why .....

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..Nelson Eddy movie...in glorious Technicolor.

sweethearts?

Phantom of the Opera. Mom had a crush on Nelson when he was in his heyday. There's a warning hidden in there for all those who currently admire J-Lo's posterior or Christina Aguilera's upperwork ....

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there's a thing in tinseltown called straight-to-video/dvd productions. it's getting old and will probably get renamed to straight-to-hell cause people these days think they can watch a movie on freakin phone (4'' screen glory, talk about proportions). oh yeah and everyone is compressing everything in order to fit everywhere :evil:


That sucks. It strikes me that this entire civilization is riding a river of turds ..... a post-industrial, post-modern society where everything is a copy of a copy of a copy, each of us a would-be Huck Finn fishing in this river of shit until it reaches that great ocean of sewage. But hey now ! We've fulfilled our fiduciary responsibility to the shareholders !

Let's hurry up and elect Rick Perry so we can get this over with. Humanity has earned extinction.


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Are you sure you didn't insert the DVD the wrong way 'round?

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Unread postPosted: Sat Oct 01, 2011 3:17 am 
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Alien wrote:
Are you sure you didn't insert the DVD the wrong way 'round?

I'd be insulted except that yes, I am that dumb. So I tried it both ways (on the desktop, anyhow) :)

When I had a moment to think about it I remembered that the Assist used to sit in bed eating duck feet and watching teevee serieses on dvd. And while she has no hesitation about downloading and installing any godawful crap she finds online (luckily there's no QQ for the Macintosh), she knows slightly less than nothing about how her laptop works. So it couldn't be too hard to play a movie ...

Armed with that knowledge, I stuck The Kid Stays in the Picture into the slot. Thar she blows ! Up comes the dvd player and the movie.

Soooo ....

What is the difference between these two dvd's ? So far, I can't find anything and both play fine in Irix ...


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Unread postPosted: Sat Oct 01, 2011 4:42 am 
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We dont get duck feet :-(

Country code maybe? I thought I had a few DVD's that do that... No idea why. Not country code for sure.

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...and i was about to ask if you nailed it yet

some discs are just constipated, did you try the country code utility?


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Unread postPosted: Sat Oct 01, 2011 8:00 pm 
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buying dubious DVDs from the street vendor again, hamei?

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hamei wrote:
(luckily there's no QQ for the Macintosh)


Oh yes there is - http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/37154/qq-for-mac

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