A book I recently read nicely outlined this
Sounds interesting - would be great if you could cite the title...
Thank's a lot!
eMGee wrote:As I may've posted already, I used to own a POWER4 system. Well, I hated it (or, ended up hating it) and got rid of it! I'd say the qualitative spirit of IBM died somewhere in the 1970s, since then they've been not much worse or better than M$ in my book. The only IBM system I still own is a boring xSeries 346 (that I use for network-distributed render jobs). I used to have a quad-processor xSeries 365, but I got rid of it because it (as a mere 4U system) produced almost as much sound as a fully-populated Origin3200 system and it didn't have EMT64 Xeons.
I only have this system because I found it real cheap. It makes terrible noise. HP and others makes far superior 2U RM systems, in my humble opinion of course.SAQ wrote:IBM POWER kit holds its value entirely too well.
What do you mean? I often see n-way POWER4, and increasingly POWER5, stuff thrown on eBay for under $ ~150. I can certainly understand why (I got rid of my 9114-275 real fast), it's such low quality trash and IBM is just the worst company second after M$ in my opinion. Many people (read: private individuals, i.e. enthusiasts), clearly, don't care for AIX. There's absolutely no community and extremely little F/OSS porting work in progress. I guess IBM doesn't care much (read: at all), which shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone either. IBM only got into the UNIX business because DEC, HP, Sun, SGI and such were involved and were possibly endangering IBM and its aging mainframe racket. (A book I recently read nicely outlined this.)
Why can't it be M$ and IBM to die, instead of DEC and SGI? There's clearly no justice, LOL.
eMGee wrote:I'd say the qualitative spirit of IBM died somewhere in the 1970s, since then they've been not much worse or better than M$ in my book.
Why not read a few IBM books published by IBM press or Microsoft books published by MICROSOFT press?published in 1997 by DIGITAL Press.
IBM gear has lots of personality... my thinkpad just oozes that perfect badass thinkpad look that ALL thinkpads have, IBM or Lenovo. I even customized it with some contact paper over two years ago and that turned out nice IMO and has held up surprisingly well, thinkpads (ALL Thinkpads) are so sexy to begin with they are hard to improve and easy to screw up. Sometimes the paper is darker than the thinkpad, and sometimes the paper is lighter than the thinkpad. It depends on the lightOne of the best (certainly most amusing) understatements, ever.It may lack some of the personality of SGI
I guess you have never tried to deal with SGI! IBM was quick to sell me that replacement battery when I called, call under 10 minutes, but I tried to talk to SGI about a monitor cable a few years ago (back when they were still SGI) and I got shuffled around their sales people a bunch, put on hold, talked to the same guy twice, and eventually hung up and bought the damn cable on ebay. Good riddance to SGI, may they rot in hell for having such an incompetent sales team. How do you expect to stay in business when you can't sell your customers your product? HP is the best though. Get your service manual, look up the part number (for me it was dv8000 hinges), type the part # into their site and your CC and address, and the part magically appears a few days later.It worked the other way around for me, once I learned about IBM gear, I became more and more agitated and repulsed. But especially after learning about IBM itself! (And having to deal with its personnel.)
PymbleSoftware wrote:No where near there yet but play nice.
eMGee wrote:Have you ever used AIX and POWER/PPC systems, or had to deal with IBM's customer support for those?
IBM hardware.. I've an original ibm safety helmet, sysadmin work is so dangerous sometime (on unix obviously)
eMGee wrote:Oh sure, at a gazillion gigahertz, with tons of cache memories and slurping power, elegant like a super-charged old-timer. (In other words: Let's just not compare instructions per watt, that would be rather painful.)
I find claims such as the above similar to what x86/-64 freaks love to boast, about their ‘bigger, better’ Linux ‘super computers.’
Ha ha, awesome! Looks like you're sporting a genuine IBM lanyard too. Can't speak to the provenance of the HW in the background but a good bit of it looks like it could be Big Blue...
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