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Unread postPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 10:07 am 
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Hey Guys,

So I was trying to make a 30 second short animation, and it turned out to be a huge project. I had 30 stills in JPEG and SGI IMAGE format that I created in photoshop with a Wacom. I wanted to arrange them, set how long they are displayed, add some audio, and export. Perfect tool you would say is IRIX's built in MovieMaker. It worked great until it got up to about 25 images with audio and would crash, every time. Ok, fine, so I tried Adobe Premiere, FAIL, it crashed loading a single image, and then I figured I would try ShotMaker (supposedly a re-written MovieMaker), it would seem they removed still image support for some reason. So needless to say, that wasn't an option. What I ended up doing was arranging the images in MovieMaker, then exporting them as QuickTime, importing them into Premiere adding music, titles, and exporting them. But what a pain!!! I'm wondering I guess if there is a better way to arrange images for us as video. I am planning to do a much higher quality and larger project, this one was just messing around on a Thursday night as a proof of concept. I am using an :O2: at the moment, I was going to try the :Octane2: , but the drive took a crap the other night and I have to get IRIX on the new one still (don't have enough beer in the house to start the IRIX install..the first package dependency!). :lol:

Here is the end result just for lol's http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjHXS89ri3Y

Thank you!

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Unread postPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 2:22 pm 
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cinenate35 wrote:
Hey Guys,

So I was trying to make a 30 second short animation, and it turned out to be a huge project. I had 30 stills in JPEG and SGI IMAGE format that I created in photoshop with a Wacom. I wanted to arrange them, set how long they are displayed, add some audio, and export. Perfect tool you would say is IRIX's built in MovieMaker. It worked great until it got up to about 25 images with audio and would crash, every time. Ok, fine, so I tried Adobe Premiere, FAIL, it crashed loading a single image, and then I figured I would try ShotMaker (supposedly a re-written MovieMaker), it would seem they removed still image support for some reason. So needless to say, that wasn't an option. What I ended up doing was arranging the images in MovieMaker, then exporting them as QuickTime, importing them into Premiere adding music, titles, and exporting them. But what a pain!!! I'm wondering I guess if there is a better way to arrange images for us as video. I am planning to do a much higher quality and larger project, this one was just messing around on a Thursday night as a proof of concept. I am using an :O2: at the moment, I was going to try the :Octane2: , but the drive took a crap the other night and I have to get IRIX on the new one still (don't have enough beer in the house to start the IRIX install..the first package dependency!). :lol:

Here is the end result just for lol's http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjHXS89ri3Y

Thank you!



I use, combustion, shake, Premiere and probably others I've forgotten.
Shake is around for IRIX and there may even be a crack for it, if that is not sailing too close to the forum rules.
My favorite was shake but I've been using combustion more often recently.

You might try working on a story line before worrying too much about the tools.

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Unread postPosted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 4:17 am 
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cinenate35 wrote:
Here is the end result just for lol's http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjHXS89ri3Y


Heh, made me laugh.


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Unread postPosted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 12:32 pm 
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Once you get the Octane2 up and running again, I wonder if you'll experience any of the same problems.

So after getting the octane up and running it seems that app (MovieMaker) works a little better. It does crash if you copy and paste images into the sequence though. The other issue it seems to have, even though the images are snapped together, when outputted, I get black frames in between some of the images. Kind of a pain.

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Nice little animation there!

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Heh, made me laugh.


glad you guys enjoyed the "just messing around test film"

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Unread postPosted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 12:29 pm 
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You can also try Blender's Sequence editor.

http://wiki.blender.org/index.php/Doc:Manual/Sequencer

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Unread postPosted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 5:10 pm 
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I really like using Shake and it works really well with image sequences. You could even composite your animated characters over digital photo backgrounds if you saved an alpha channel / transparency data with your images from Photoshop.

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Unread postPosted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 5:42 pm 
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Thanks guys for the tips!

I will check out blender's NLE, I never knew it had one. And will defiantly take a look at shake.

Thanks for the help!!!!

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Unread postPosted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 6:00 pm 
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My favorite was shake but I've been using combustion more often recently.

Do you like Combustion better than Shake? I think this is the first time I've heard that.


Something happened in shake and I lost work. That pissed me off but it is not so much that I like Combustion.. Combustion was more unusable than anything else I had when I first started using it and then I found one or two features that fit more into my workflow that other things. I think Shakes noodling is cool, but there some times an easy simple tool does one job better than a swiss army knife of an Application. If I wanted to too something just too waaaay cool in post, I'd break out my Shake book, but for some simple jobs almost anything goes and if combustion is in closer reach then thats it.

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Unread postPosted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 6:55 am 
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PymbleSoftware wrote:
Something happened in shake and I lost work.


Since Shake's project file format is ASCII and is practically a scripting language, most of the time you can just delete the offending lines (which almost always belong to either a RotoShape or a QuickPaint node).

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