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 Post subject: Got a C8000 today :)
Unread postPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 5:37 pm 
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1x dual core PA8800 1GHz
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ATi FireGL X1-256MB

need to get the audio card for it...

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 Post subject: Re: Got a C8000 today :)
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Greetings! It's fully pre-loaded with memory, disk subsystem and ATI video, which is cool.

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 Post subject: Re: Got a C8000 today :)
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Very nice !

I always wanted to have some other workstation than SGI. I love the serious design of later HP Unix workstation (ZX6000....) I see many C8000 on ebay these days, but I don't know when I can no longer resist to purchase one.

I do not know anything on HP UX but I'm really interested to see one in action. What were their main use in industry ? The FireGL X1 is based on 9700pro, so I think the station have some 3D horsepower. I don't know much about the Dualcore 1Ghz.

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 Post subject: Re: Got a C8000 today :)
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Wow, it looks just like a cousin of my xw9300. I love that HP design, the new Z series are trying too hard ;)

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 Post subject: Re: Got a C8000 today :)
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I'm curious (but lazy, so I'll just ask here ;^) -- do you have any option other than HP/UX to get proper support for that FireGL card in this system?

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 Post subject: Re: Got a C8000 today :)
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To the best of my knowledge there was never a proprietary (full-support) PA-RISC video driver for Linux from any manufacturer.

On the other hand the open-source ATI drivers are getting more and more acceleration so you might try those out.

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 Post subject: Re: Got a C8000 today :)
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Welcome to the C8000 club :D they're brilliant machines. HPUX 11.11 runs really nicely on these. And yes, supposing you have the right version (which you probably won't have much trouble getting your hands on) it has full 3D accelleration.

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need to get the audio card for it...


Audio is onboard on these machines. Check ioscan :) I have mine running UX 11.11 MCOE, with a big chunk of pkgsrc built apps on top of it; I have fluxbox as a desktop, firefox 3.5.9 is available from HP (since you really, REALLY don't want to try building firefox on UX yourself), and everything else that I need, I build ;)

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 Post subject: Re: Got a C8000 today :)
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eMGee wrote:
Alver wrote:
firefox 3.5.9 is available from HP (since you really, REALLY don't want to try building firefox on UX yourself)

Out of curiosity, why is that? (I'm still quite new to HP-UX myself.)


The main reason is because firefox depends on xulrunner, which has large parts implemented in assembler code. This code can only be built using aCC on HPUX. But since the rest of the firefox code is written with gcc in mind, you have a choice between re-implementing the assember, or fixing half a billion gcc-isms in the code...

I got pretty far at some point in time, after spending many weeks working on it. But even then I was still far, far away from getting a working build. When I learned that HP provided firefox 3+, I stopped and never looked back. :)

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 Post subject: Re: Got a C8000 today :)
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HP9000/PA-RISC is an interesting architecture. The workstations were often used for CADD and electronics design because HPPA was pretty fast in practice due to the caching system. HP tried to muscle in on SGI's market with the Visualize FX and later graphics, but they never seemed to have the supporting structure that SGI gave you.

HP-UX is solid but not too fancy. About the only one that comes with (mostly full) VxFS support out of the box. I don't like the firmware/console as much as I like some of the others (OpenBoot, SGI ARCS, SRM), but it works. The biggest drawback in driver support is the same as IRIX - no USB block support.

SAM is a nice entry point, since it supports both text mode and graphics, and unlike AIX you can easily move to "native" administration. It also ships with trusted features so you can use those.

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 Post subject: Re: Got a C8000 today :)
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Nice! May I ask how much you paid for it?

There are a few up for auction in sweden for about 850 dollars. Waay to pricy for me, but I'm curious about their value. Some had a "Magellan Spacemouse" if it makes a difference.

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 Post subject: Re: Got a C8000 today :)
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Nice! May I ask how much you paid for it?

There are a few up for auction in sweden for about 850 dollars. Waay to pricy for me, but I'm curious about their value. Some had a "Magellan Spacemouse" if it makes a difference.


There are various low spec (900MHz, no GFX or HD, off-lease so maybe a bit scuffed) systems selling via auction for about €35 these days on eBay.de. More complete systems are generally €135 and upwards. HP-UX on the desktop is dead for a long time, so these systems are not too valuable commercially anymore.


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 Post subject: Re: Got a C8000 today :)
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HP-UX on the desktop is dead for a long time, so these systems are not too valuable commercially anymore.


I think the only grand old damme that's still around for the desktop is Solaris, and based on how Oracle's marketing it I wouldn't count on it being a "current desktop" (i.e. still being developed and marketed as a desktop system) for much longer.

OpenVMS and AIX are limping along in "maintenance" (the system is still being developed, but the desktop part is stagnant), and the rest are discontinued, dying (Tru64, IRIX) or in bankruptcy.

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 Post subject: Re: Got a C8000 today :)
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SAQ wrote:
OpenVMS and AIX are limping along in "maintenance" (the system is still being developed, but the desktop part is stagnant), and the rest are discontinued, dying (Tru64, IRIX) or in bankruptcy.


I think that anyone who wants UNIX on the desktop these days, is buying either Linux or Macintosh. Neither make a very weak case for themselves, competitively speaking. If I were IBM or HP or whatever remains of Sun, I certainly wouldn't want to be trying to compete in that space at this point.

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 Post subject: Re: Got a C8000 today :)
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After accidentally buying another C8000 I combined them and made a super C8000...the heat it puts out now is ridiculous.

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2x 1000MHz HP PA-8800 dual-core processor
5GB DDR PC2100 ECC ram
3x 73GB 10000RPM Ultra320 SCSI hard drive
1x 146GB 10000RPM Ultra320 SCSI hard drive
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 Post subject: Re: Got a C8000 today :)
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hehe. I know that feeling :)

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