Hey there, Hamei!
hamei wrote:Here's what makes me think it's over : people seem to have lost their brains somewhere.
Not me, my friend. But maybe I was not too specific with the subject. I'm not asking if you think the global warming is for real, or if you think that there are some (very noticeables, indeed!) environmental changes around, or if human stupidity growns up every day... I already know all of these things are already happening!
My real question was/is: "-Do you really think that at some point at the middle of 2012, the planet will blow up as per act of magic, just because the hopies, the mayans, and lately, Nostradamus predicted it?
I answer for myself: -No, I don't think so! And not even for a second!
But if you are asking if I think the planet, the tectonic plates, the human kind, the fauna, the flora, and our atmosphere are all of them healthy... my answer is: -No, I don't think so! ...the planet is mostly screwed up!
On the latest vacations I've taken with family one of the rivers where I accustomed to swim it was completely dried... only dry stones to see there... is this normal? No way. I visit these lands since 1974 and it never happened before.
But the case is... I don't think that everything will end at middle of the stupid 2012. Maybe it will end on around 50, 500, 5000, or 50000 years... but on couple years? ...I don't think so!
hamei wrote:It's as if people couldn't recognize truth if it rose up out of the grunter and bit them in the ass. There is obviously massive operpopulation, overconsumption, overcapacity, serious issues with the world we live on and cannot escape and a disconnect from reality. Yeah, the Maya thing is stupid ... but the impending doom is not. Chanting "Even scientists are human" is ... less than honest with yourself.
Yeah, I see the point... but I don't think the planet or the human kind will dissapear because operpopulation, overconsumption, overcapacity... or at least in less than a couple hundreed years... and for the case, we could also end conquered and squeezed by a bunch of aliens or anything else... it is another possibility too...
Every single disaster of the past fifty years has been predictable and predicted
but no one would listen. There's not a chance in hell that people will actually do
what it's going to take, so there ya go. Fifty bucks says humanity will not make it to the next century.
I'll put the money in escrow
Predictable?: Probably! Avoidable?: I Doubt!
...you know ...all the real massive events ...call them tsunamis, earthquakes, or whatever you want, all of them are mostly unavoidable. The most powerful forces of nature are all of them colossals in magnitude... nothing to do against them.
Anyway, there are tons of many other things that are just mankind's resposability... all of them avoidable... and even there nothing is done to avoid them... so, why not? Maybe you're right and TEOTW is close... but not in 2012!
Fifty bucks says humanity will make it to -at least- up to 2013!