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 Post subject: End of an era.
Unread postPosted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 8:12 am 
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Welp, Oracle now owns Sun and has assimilated their website.

Sun.com -> Oracle.com

Sunsolve didn't switch yet, but docs and bigadmin have been horacle'd.
http://blogs.sun.com/jag/resource/SunRIP.jpg

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 Post subject: Re: End of an era.
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Solaris and SPARC will be put on a short leash now.

if you're not an Oracle DB customer... good luck...

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Have they revealed what they're going to do with MySQL yet?

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Ya, they said they are keeping it. Oracle basically said they were just going to keep everything and spend more money on the products then Sun did. But there will be some cuts to the server line from what I hear (low end stuff mostly).

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The MySQL.com page now has an Oracle logo at the bottom - that's kind of funny :)

I don't see download links anymore though. Looks like you can still get there via http://dev.mysql.com/downloads/mysql/ , but they aren't making it obvious.

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My friend works for MySQL and I teased him when SUN bought him and now I can tease him for being Oracled.

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I thought Sun's website was actually kind of nice aside from needing some hardcore processing sometimes with all the fancy stuff on the pages. They need to put more pretty pictures like Sun had.

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So is IBM now the only "old guard" maker that hasn't been bought by an upstart?

I guess you could say HP is too, but they're "good as bought" now, and not nearly what they used to be. Agilent is closer to the "old HP" than HP is.

Cray -> SGI -> Rackable
Sun -> Oracle
Apollo ->HP
DEC -> Compaq -> HP
Sperry, UNIVAC, etc -> Unisys
Didn't Honeywell go to Bull?
DG, Control Data -> dead.

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I hope that Oracle/Sun keeps their developer's setup alive... although Sun software in general seems to be getting short shrift at the Oracle website. Things might not be looking so good here, either.

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SAQ wrote:
DG, Control Data -> dead.


where do you get that lineage? Data General went to EMC. there are a lot of DG'ers around that would disagree they are dead.
maybe the server business is dead, it died long before the acquisition. however, their storage business is still hot.

edit: oh, you meant DG AND CD are BOTH dead. still... DG; not!

but it is true all the unix platform guys are gone, and HP and IBM are the refuge for the surviving members HP-UX and AIX. but it's a small part of their business, to lose it would only cost them customers :)


now it's commodity components; windows, linux, pc's, open source and cloud-vertising. what used to make computing special is gone from the world, yet still lives on in the hearts of dreamers, and kids too young to realize the hurt of loving an old friend that died of neglect beneath the melee of mediocrity, windows or linux... the past will never rise again. it's all dead now...

bring out your dead.

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 Post subject: Re: End of an era.
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skywriter wrote:
SAQ wrote:
DG, Control Data -> dead.


where do you get that lineage? Data General went to EMC. there are a lot of DG'ers around that would disagree they are dead.
maybe the server business is dead, it died long before the acquisition. however, their storage business is still hot.

edit: oh, you meant DG AND CD are BOTH dead. still... DG; not!

but it is true all the unix platform guys are gone, and HP and IBM are the refuge for the surviving members HP-UX and AIX. but it's a small part of their business, to lose it would only cost them customers :)



DG makes perepherals, yes, but no longer computers. I guess you could say that CDC is still around as well - split between Seagate and BT, but they really can't be said to make computers either.

But it's not just UNIX platform guys that are dead (we still have SCO after all!) - it's more of a mindset that's dead. The last burst of more unfettered innovation seems to have flickered out in the '90s with Itanium (I wonder if that will be the last new electronic computer architecture designed?) and I suppose Windows NT, Plan 9, or possibly NeXTSTEP in the O/S space.

The '60s and '70s must have been exciting to be in from a computing standpoint, with so many new approaches. Of course keeping in mind the caveat that few could afford to play around on the machines then.

It'll be interesting to see how development goes from here, since ideas used to usually filter down from the high end, and the high end is considerably shrinking.

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Tsk. Let's see what they make of Solaris. I'm personally tired of companies ditching their perfectly good OSes for trash.

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Maybe one should order a couple of displays and a U27 while they still have the Sun logo :)

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Could have been worse ... Rackable could have bought them for a few pennies.


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