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 Post subject: 10.5.8 is out
Unread postPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 12:29 pm 
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title has it all.
more here http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3606

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 Post subject: Re: 10.5.8 is out
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Nice! i hope it corrects my startup time problem, my brand spanking new macbook pro takes almost a minute before showing me an apple logo.

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Well, ill be damned! It actually worked! now it takes about 30 seconds to completely boot.

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 Post subject: Re: 10.5.8 is out
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I have reason to belive 10.6 is coming out in Spetember.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac_OS_X_v10.6

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...oh thanks for the hint!

And I thought 10.5.7 was the last release before Snow Leopard.

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 Post subject: Re: 10.5.8 is out
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Looks like a good release, so far. Running well on my 2.3 GHz MBP.

One of my criticisms of Apple has been its lack of solid information about its product's life cycles. It's hard to say whether 10.5.8 is the last Leopard release or not, since as far as I have been able to find, there is no official Apple comment on the matter.

(BTW, Apple released one version of Tiger, 10.4.11, after Leopard was out for a couple of months. They've been supplying Tiger security updates in concert with Leopard updates, but I haven't seen anything about whether that policy will continue after Snow Leopard is released. A strange place to be: about a month away from a major software release without having any idea whether or not an older OS will still be supported. In the case of Panther, for example, when Leopard was released, Apple stopped producing Panther updates, but I don't recall ever seeing an official statement about it.)


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Apple usually stops "functionality" updates for their current OS once the newer version comes out, however they release security updates for a while. 10.4 (and I think 10.3 too) have had plenty of security updates during 10.5's life cycle.

I assume apple will maintain 10.5 for a while, since it is the last OSX to support PPC. Although I agree with your point, it seems that for apple to be taken a bit more seriously in the corporate space, they need to guarantee product support life cycles in writing... (although they may already do that, I have no clue. But I know of large corps that need to sign certain contractual guarantees from software vendors specially to secure, in writing, the lifecycle of the products they are buying).

That being said, apple tends to have a pretty good record regarding the support longevity for their products.

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I agree with you on all of those points, R-ten-K. In practice, Apple has been quite good about supporting products over time.

When I was with Global MegaCo, Inc. a few years back, and Apple was asking for advice on how to sell into our enterprise, it was one of the things that I flagged for them as "needing work." Every other large technology provider I dealt with was much more forthcoming about lifecycle roadmaps than Apple was. I think it comes from the fact that despite its increasing enterprise attractiveness, Apple is largely a consumer gadget company, and consumer gadget producers are notoriously secretive about their product plans. Consumer marketing is much more about the "flavor of the week," rather than enterprise marketing's focus on investment and stability.


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I think Apple is spooked by the possibility of the Osborne Effect. Since Apple enjoys a relatively small market share, being too forthcoming with future product announcements has the potential to completely kill off current demand.

Sucks for consumers, but makes sense from a business standpoint.

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indyman007 wrote:
I have reason to belive 10.6 is coming out in Spetember.


not a secret. apple announced it on their website weeks ago.

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Yeah, I already ordered the 10.6 cd set, i had to pay about 15$ for the disc set for my MBP 13 inch, i suppose it covers the media and shipping.

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 Post subject: Re: 10.5.8 is out
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nekonoko wrote:
I think Apple is spooked by the possibility of the Osborne Effect. Since Apple enjoys a relatively small market share, being too forthcoming with future product announcements has the potential to completely kill off current demand.

Sucks for consumers, but makes sense from a business standpoint.


That would explain why they don't tell people where they're going, but even Microsoft commits to supporting their products for N years after last ship date (as does SGI, HP, IBM, etc.) Dropping support shortly after the successor release comes out might have worked when Apple/Macintosh was a personal platform, but when you're trying to be considered as a heavyweight server vendor people don't really want to mess (for a few years, anyway) with something that's working just because company X came out with a spiffy new version and wants to sell it to you (provided that you're talking with the tech staff, who knows what management will do?)

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