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 Post subject: WTB: Octane/Fuel for cheap
PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 7:42 am 
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Cheap: Something I can write off as a shopping cost/something I can get within two-four hours of teaching piano to little kids. In other words, no more than 100 Euro.
WTB: Not at the moment. I just want to know whether it is possible, and whether I will be satisfied with what I get in this price range.

Requirements: A keyboard+mouse would be awesome. Other than that, meh. MGRAS graphics will do, I heard mplayer loves texturing support while outputting video - would an SI+Texture module do the trick, or do I really need a V6? Is 512MB RAM enough? Dual processors would be great, but not necessary if the processor is a R10K 250MHz, for example. For the Fuel: R14K 500MHz, 512MB RAM at least.

Other places I am considering: Ian Mapleson's, although I really want a larger hard drive and dual processor machines are already 70 UKP, which will become a lot more in Euro once the currency conversion and shipping costs are added in. eBay: price isn't constant, no control over what I'm getting.

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 Post subject: Re: WTB: Octane/Fuel for cheap
PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 8:10 am 
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One of the indigo-mood (german SGI forum) member have picked up a pallet of 300mhz Octanes(Version 1) from a university.
http://www.mood-indigo.org/empty-t4611.0.html;topicseen

I dont expect that someone will give away a FUEL for 100,-

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 Post subject: Re: WTB: Octane/Fuel for cheap
PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 8:48 pm 
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joerg wrote:
I dont expect that someone will give away a FUEL for 100,-

There are times when I would pay someone $100 to take mine away but they usually don't last long :D

ritchan wrote:
... something I can get within two-four hours of teaching piano to little kids.

Maybe you can get Lilypond working in Irix. I'd donate a cheap Octane to anyone who can do that ...


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 Post subject: Re: WTB: Octane/Fuel for cheap
PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 12:59 am 
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You should be able to get a nice Octane/Octane2 for €100.

I know you don't prefer eBay but there are one or two going on eBay Germany at the moment. There is a 300Mhz SSI, 1.5Gig Ram and a 9Gig system disk, kbd and mouse starting at €0.50 with 1 bid. Snipe it in 5 days time with a decent bid...

Edit: RadRob in Italy may have something for sale, contact him.

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 Post subject: Re: WTB: Octane/Fuel for cheap
PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 9:54 am 
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Ian Mapleson is also selling some Octanes on eBid.net: http://de.ten.ebid.net/perl/main.cgi?go=1&mo=search&category=&type=keyword&words=SGI&categoryid=&go.x=0&go.y=0

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 Post subject: Re: WTB: Octane/Fuel for cheap
PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 2:00 am 
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Looks like the best deal is the one on ebay.... 2 euro, wow! Hopefully somebody doesn't snipe it with 100.

BTW, is sniping better or late proxy bidding better?


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 Post subject: Re: WTB: Octane/Fuel for cheap
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ritchan wrote:
BTW, is sniping better or late proxy bidding better?

I don't think the demon of eBay is bidding on Octanes these days, so I'd just put in a bid about twenty bucks below where you want to end up. If there are no other bids, wait until about two seconds from the end and put in your higher bid. Unless they've changed it, bids against yourself don't count but if a sniping program planned to get the item for thirty cents more than you had bid, you'd have a chance to outwit it. Only a chance, mind you, latency and timing being what they are.


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 Post subject: Re: WTB: Octane/Fuel for cheap
PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 1:31 pm 
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I mean, if I successfully snipe something, will I have to pay the price at which I sniped it at? Or do I pay 50 cents more than the last guy offered?


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 Post subject: Re: WTB: Octane/Fuel for cheap
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ritchan wrote:
I mean, if I successfully snipe something, will I have to pay the price at which I sniped it at?


No, a snipe is just a last minute bid, and is just a standard issue eBay bid in every way. You set your maximum - say $50 - and snipe for that amount. If the existing bidder's max was $30 and you sniped for $50, you'd get it for a bit over his max - maybe $31 or so.

The idea behind sniping is to just not give the other bidder the time to ponder things over and raise his max bid higher than your max - by the time he decides it's worth $60 to him, the auction is over.

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 Post subject: Re: WTB: Octane/Fuel for cheap
PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 4:12 pm 
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nekonoko wrote:

No, a snipe is just a last minute bid, and is just a standard issue eBay bid in every way. You set your maximum - say $50 - and snipe for that amount. If the existing bidder's max was $30 and you sniped for $50, you'd get it for a bit over his max - maybe $31 or so.



You have to watch it on more expensive things though because they have a incremental bid thing that comes into play when things are over $100 and gets worse as it gets more expensive. They explained it to me when I complained once but, I forget exactly how it works. I kept wondering why my winning bid was my max bid so often. Basically if the thing is up a few hundred bucks or more you have a good chance of your winning bid being exactly your max bid due to the automatic bidding increment bid size being increased every $100 or something like that.


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 Post subject: Re: WTB: Octane/Fuel for cheap
PostPosted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 2:45 pm 
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ritchan writes:
> Other places I am considering: Ian Mapleson's, although I really want a larger hard drive and dual processor
> machines are already 70 UKP, ...

I don't mind putting in a bigger drive if it makes the sale. 8) What do you need?


> ... which will become a lot more in Euro once the currency conversion

Heh, not these days, UKP has been sliding like a penguin on a ski run. :D


> ... and shipping costs are added in. ...

Shipping to germany isn't too bad, 20 UKP fixed cost.


> eBay: price isn't constant, no control over what I'm getting.

And the packaging usually sucks too. ;)

My systems rule! Don't they JacquesT? 8-)

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 Post subject: Re: WTB: Octane/Fuel for cheap
PostPosted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 3:27 pm 
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joerg pointed me to a 'Charles' on mood-indigo. At first, he quoted 70 euro including shipping and peripherals, but I was looking at an eBay auction with 1.5GB of RAM and SSE graphics. Then after he posted a new image, I realized that these weren't the old green skins - they were the new ones. Which meant they had the new motherboards and new power supplies. That tipped the deal.

So I bought one for 49 Euro including shipping and peripherals. Since then he's put his machines up on auction here. I'll be asking for a later green skin set from you soon, Ian! I can't stand it without a front flap. And more to come, of course. A V8 looks cheap.


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 Post subject: Re: WTB: Octane/Fuel for cheap
PostPosted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 1:23 am 
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mapesdhs wrote:
My systems rule! Don't they JacquesT? 8-)

Ian.


Amen! Super clean with bomb-proof packaging! :mrgreen:

Bought an O2 from Ian and he said the skinz were in OK shape...Turned out they were near mint! Have swapped O2 for V12 though...also from Ian...

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 Post subject: Re: WTB: Octane/Fuel for cheap
PostPosted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 5:37 pm 
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> So I bought one for 49 Euro including shipping and peripherals. ...

Sweet!


> I'll be asking for a later green skin set from you soon, Ian! I can't stand it without a front flap. ...

I should have at least one more good later-green skins set.


> ... And more to come, of course. A V8 looks cheap.

Alas, I'm all out of V8s atm. :\

Ian.


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