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hamei

Post subject: USB Cards and the Fuel

Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 8:33 pm

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In another (small) triumph for Fuel users, ramq noted that the Belkin four-port USB card worked fine. So I picked up a generic 2-port universal voltage nec-chipped pci adapter card.

Code:

  PCI Adapter ID (vendor 0x104c, device 0x8024) PCI slot 1
  PCI Adapter ID (vendor 0x1077, device 0x1216) PCI slot 1
  PCI Adapter ID (vendor 0x10a9, device 0x0005) PCI slot 2
  PCI Adapter ID (vendor 0x1033, device 0x0035) PCI slot 3
  PCI Adapter ID (vendor 0x1033, device 0x0035) PCI slot 3
  PCI Adapter ID (vendor 0x1033, device 0x00e0) PCI slot 3
  PCI Adapter ID (vendor 0x10a9, device 0x0003) PCI slot 4
  PCI Adapter ID (vendor 0x11c1, device 0x5802) PCI slot 5
HUB in Module 001c01/Slot 0: Revision 2 Speed 200.00 Mhz (enabled)
IP35prom in Module 001c01/Slot n0: Revision 6.210
USB controller: type OHCI
USB controller: type OHCI
USB controller: type OHCI
USB Human Interface Device: device id 0 type keyboard
USB Human Interface Device: device id 0 type mouse

It appears that any pci card with a NEC OHCI USB chip should work in the Fuel ? Thanks to ramq for being the brave pioneer.

<Moderator Edit: Split from The Fuel (IP35) Hardware Aggregator <recondas>

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ramq

Post subject: Re: The Fuel (IP35) Hardware Aggregator

Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 10:30 pm

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What's funky enough about the Belkin, is that it only show two OHCI ports. Perhaps it's two "channels" and it makes up a hub of two ports each? I don't know, but in the end it might show that the Fuel can only handle two ports on the four-port Belkin. I have to investigate this further when I find the time...

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nekonoko

Post subject: Re: The Fuel (IP35) Hardware Aggregator

Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 11:00 pm

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Hmm, that card could be interesting for Tezro - they don't have any built-in USB ports at all. Might allow for USB keyboards/mice like the Fuel.

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hamei

Post subject: Re: The Fuel (IP35) Hardware Aggregator

Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 1:42 am

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ramq wrote:

Not sure ... I bought what was supposed to be a Belkin to try. It was a two-port version with another internal port. hinv showed all three on the card plus the two built-in ports. I stuck a fonky tablet into one of the ports on the Fraudkin, recognized that as a keyboard right away. (I know, but what do you expect, cost three bucks. I couldn't get that tablet to work in Windows either.)

Sent that one back, pisses me off when they use a photo of one thing then send you a different one so now in process of ordering a different four + one port generic with NEC chip.

Does seem as if they should work in a Tezro ... maybe even an Octane with late o.s. and a cage ?

Those cards cost about $5 here so testing is not too expensive. Pondering a no-name combo card with TI firewire and NEC USB right now.

Last edited by hamei on Fri Aug 29, 2008 1:47 am, edited 1 time in total.

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nekonoko

Post subject: Re: The Fuel (IP35) Hardware Aggregator

Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 1:46 am

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hamei wrote:

... maybe even an Octane with late o.s. and a cage ?

Nah, probably not. IP35 kernel driver; nothing like that in the IP30 tree (/usr/cpu/IP30boot).

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hamei

Post subject: Re: The Fuel (IP35) Hardware Aggregator

Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 1:49 am

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nekonoko wrote:

... nothing like that in the IP30 tree.

Got Source ?

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nekonoko

Post subject: Re: The Fuel (IP35) Hardware Aggregator

Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 1:50 am

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/usr/cpu/sysgen/IP35boot/ohci.o

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hamei

Post subject: Re: The Fuel (IP35) Hardware Aggregator

Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 1:32 am

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A little more on the NEC-chip USB cards ... the one I sent back was a three-port model with NEC engine. Worked, all three ports showed up in hinv. Universal voltage card. Plugged a mousey into one port, showed up in ioconfig. Plugged a cheapo tablet in also, that showed up as a keyboard. At least stuff was talking.

Got cocky, insisted on the four-port + 1 that I'd bought. New one came, Fool won't boot. Won't get to the white light. I get a bare instant's worth of flash from the red led and that's it.

So much for getting cocky. Either I can eat crow now or go looking for another three port NEC-engine USB card.

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nekonoko

Post subject: Re: The Fuel (IP35) Hardware Aggregator

Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 1:35 am

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hamei wrote:

Got cocky, insisted on the four-port + 1 that I'd bought. New one came, Fool won't boot. Won't get to the white light. I get a bare instant's worth of flash from the red led and that's it.

I tried a four-port NEC USB card with the same result - machine won't even boot. Thought I was just unlucky in my chipset revision.

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hamei

Post subject: Re: The Fuel (IP35) Hardware Aggregator

Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 10:04 am

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nekonoko wrote:

I tried a four-port NEC USB card with the same result - machine won't even boot. Thought I was just unlucky in my chipset revision.

Have three different NEC-chipped cards coming. We'll see what pans out.

Stupid of me not to write down the info on the one that worked. Seemed like they all would

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hamei

Post subject: Re: The Fuel (IP35) Hardware Aggregator

Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 6:29 am

Joined: Tue Feb 24, 2004 4:10 pm
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An update :

This is the one I really wanted to have work - Adaptec UAU 3020 dually card with TI chip for the firewire and a NEC chip for the USB. One slot, two birdies.

First one I got was a rev A in red. Alas, the firewire showed up but not the USB.

Second one was a later rev in blue. Shows up this way in hinv

Code:

Integral Fast Ethernet: ef0, version 1, module 001c01, pci 4
Iris Audio Processor: version RAD revision 13.0, number 1
  PCI Adapter ID (vendor 0x3388, device 0x0021) PCI slot 1
  PCI Adapter ID (vendor 0x1077, device 0x1216) PCI slot 1
  PCI Adapter ID (vendor 0x10a9, device 0x0005) PCI slot 2
  PCI Adapter ID (vendor 0x10a9, device 0x0003) PCI slot 4
  PCI Adapter ID (vendor 0x11c1, device 0x5802) PCI slot 5

So hip hip hooray but where is that little devil ? Rebooted and watched the messages more carefully this time :

Code:

WARNING : pciio_ppb : host pci slot /hw/module/001c01/Ibrick/xtalk/14/pci/1  does not support having multiple dma masters downstream. No devices behind that slot are being initialized. This behavior can be overridden by setting the kernel mtune pciio_multimaster_override.

So hmmm ... do I want to do that ? No guts, no glory, eh ?

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nekonoko

Post subject: Re: The Fuel (IP35) Hardware Aggregator

Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 6:34 am

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hamei wrote:

So hmmm ... do I want to do that ? No guts, no glory, eh ?

If you make a backup of /unix beforehand (say, to 'unix.backup'), you'd still have a way to boot the machine if something does go awry with the kernel.

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hamei

Post subject: Re: The Fuel (IP35) Hardware Aggregator

Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 6:38 am

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nekonoko wrote:

... if something does go awry with the kernel.

Not a smart move with three major projects that must be finished by the end of the month.

I'll probably do it

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nekonoko

Post subject: Re: The Fuel (IP35) Hardware Aggregator

Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 6:44 am

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That's why you make the backup of /unix

To boot the backup, you'd just restart the machine, stop for system maintenance, enter the command monitor, type 'boot'. At the SASH prompt, enter "unix.backup" and go.

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hamei

Post subject: Re: The Fuel (IP35) Hardware Aggregator

Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2008 7:34 am

Joined: Tue Feb 24, 2004 4:10 pm
Posts: 8457

YES !!

Two devices, one slot !

Adaptec AUA 3020 rev B, mine is blue. This one has two fullsized firewire ports along with the three USB's, the earlier one had a single fullsized and a mini port.

Systune pciio_multimaster_override 1

reboot

hold breath

Code:

Integral SCSI controller 3: Version IEEE1394 SBP2
  IEEE1394 Disk: node d04b561107262b port 0 lun 0 on SCSI controller 3 (unit 2)
  Disk drive / removable media: unit 3 on SCSI controller 3
Integral SCSI controller 0: Version QL12160, low voltage differential
  Disk drive: unit 1 on SCSI controller 0 (unit 1)
Integral SCSI controller 1: Version QL12160, single ended
  CDROM: unit 6 on SCSI controller 1
IOC3/IOC4 serial port: tty1
IOC3/IOC4 serial port: tty2
IOC3 parallel port: plp1
Graphics board: V12
Integral Fast Ethernet: ef0, version 1, module 001c01, pci 4
Iris Audio Processor: version RAD revision 13.0, number 1
  PCI Adapter ID (vendor 0x3388, device 0x0021) PCI slot 1
  PCI Adapter ID (vendor 0x1033, device 0x0035) PCI slot 8
  PCI Adapter ID (vendor 0x1033, device 0x0035) PCI slot 8
  PCI Adapter ID (vendor 0x1033, device 0x00e0) PCI slot 8
  PCI Adapter ID (vendor 0x104c, device 0x8024) PCI slot 12
  PCI Adapter ID (vendor 0x1077, device 0x1216) PCI slot 1
  PCI Adapter ID (vendor 0x10a9, device 0x0005) PCI slot 2
  PCI Adapter ID (vendor 0x10a9, device 0x0003) PCI slot 4
  PCI Adapter ID (vendor 0x11c1, device 0x5802) PCI slot 5
IIDC Video Camera: unit 0, revision 1.30, connected to DM10, unit 0
HUB in Module 001c01/Slot 0: Revision 2 Speed 200.00 Mhz (enabled)
IP35prom in Module 001c01/Slot n0: Revision 6.210
USB controller: type OHCI
USB controller: type OHCI
USB controller: type OHCI
USB Human Interface Device: device id 0 type keyboard
USB Human Interface Device: device id 0 type mouse

And the fahrwahr drive works loverly still. (Had to change the device address where it mounts from is all.)

eBay time for all you Fool owners

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