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osx on any pc

Unread postby zahal » Wed Aug 17, 2005 9:43 am

Seems like the genie is out of the bottle:

http://www.tech-recipes.com/apple_mac_tips964.html

One has to wonder, if Steve shot himself in the foot with this mactel switch...
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Re: osx on any pc

Unread postby unixmuseum » Wed Aug 17, 2005 10:00 am

zahal wrote:Seems like the genie is out of the bottle:

http://www.tech-recipes.com/apple_mac_tips964.html

One has to wonder, if Steve shot himself in the foot with this mactel switch...
Well Steve didn't really have a choice, IBM didn't want to play with Steve anymore :-D

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Unread postby Dubhthach » Wed Aug 17, 2005 3:42 pm

unixmuseum wrote:
zahal wrote:Seems like the genie is out of the bottle:

http://www.tech-recipes.com/apple_mac_tips964.html

One has to wonder, if Steve shot himself in the foot with this mactel switch...
Well Steve didn't really have a choice, IBM didn't want to play with Steve anymore :-D


Interesting how the low power G5's and the dual core ones suddenly get released by IBM after Apple drop them.
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Unread postby unixmuseum » Wed Aug 17, 2005 3:50 pm

Dubhthach wrote:Interesting how the low power G5's and the dual core ones suddenly get released by IBM after Apple drop them.
Yep, IBM wanted to show they could do what Steve Jobbs said what was the reason for "Apple dropping IBM"...

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It is too slow. I am sorry to say this.
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Unread postby TeeTylerToe » Mon Aug 22, 2005 2:30 pm

unixmuseum wrote:
zahal wrote:Seems like the genie is out of the bottle:

http://www.tech-recipes.com/apple_mac_tips964.html

One has to wonder, if Steve shot himself in the foot with this mactel switch...
Well Steve didn't really have a choice, IBM didn't want to play with Steve anymore :-D

I heard that IBM learned that Apple'd dropped them when they got ahold of apple's press release from the news services... that makes it sound like apple dropped IBM. also, Jobs specifically stated that IBM's roadmap was inferior to Intel's :roll: and that Apple needed the power only Intel :roll: could provide (if I put in enough roll eyes here everyone would complain).

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Re: osx on any pc

Unread postby unixmuseum » Mon Aug 22, 2005 2:40 pm

TeeTylerToe wrote:
unixmuseum wrote:
zahal wrote:Seems like the genie is out of the bottle:

http://www.tech-recipes.com/apple_mac_tips964.html

One has to wonder, if Steve shot himself in the foot with this mactel switch...
Well Steve didn't really have a choice, IBM didn't want to play with Steve anymore :-D

I heard that IBM learned that Apple'd dropped them when they got ahold of apple's press release from the news services... that makes it sound like apple dropped IBM. also, Jobs specifically stated that IBM's roadmap was inferior to Intel's :roll: and that Apple needed the power only Intel :roll: could provide (if I put in enough roll eyes here everyone would complain).
Yeah well, this is all 1984-type information, IBM actually is the one that bailed out and told Apple to eat shit, at least according to my sources (which should remain nameless but are very much involved in this whole thing).

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Unread postby zahal » Mon Aug 22, 2005 11:57 pm

INTEL's roadmap is "superior" to IBM's?
Hard to believe, now that INTEL's engineers have admitted their dual core is a "rush-job":

http://www.itworld.com/Comp/2085/050817intelp4/

Then again, maybe Jobs had that nasty Lenovo deal in mind when he said that.
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Unread postby unixmuseum » Tue Aug 23, 2005 6:56 am

zahal wrote:INTEL's roadmap is "superior" to IBM's?
Hard to believe, now that INTEL's engineers have admitted their dual core is a "rush-job":

http://www.itworld.com/Comp/2085/050817intelp4/

Then again, maybe Jobs had that nasty Lenovo deal in mind when he said that.
Well, what was Jobs supposed to do? Tell the truth? "OK folks, we've been bashing on Intel for a bunch of years, but now that IBM had given us the finger, it is becoming our only choice". Can't really say that with a straight face and expect everybody to accept it...

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Unread postby zahal » Tue Aug 23, 2005 11:33 am

You are right, that would be a tough one, even for Jobs and his RDF. I've been to a couple WWDC keynotes, and he really masters his NLP working the crowds. So the rumors about IBM having an "Intel killer" might be true, and seems like IBM wants no competition, not even from Apple. (heh, they even 'sold' their pc unit, they did well selling a piece of junk for millions which will be totally worthless when the "intel killer" appears on desktops for sale on Best Buy!) With intel gone, I wonder what IBM plans to run on their cell based PC's. I'm sure they will also pull the plug on Gates, taking revenge on the whole ms-dos issue.
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Unread postby GeneratriX » Tue Aug 23, 2005 11:59 am

unixmuseum wrote:Well, what was Jobs supposed to do? Tell the truth? "OK folks, we've been bashing on Intel for a bunch of years, but now that IBM had given us the finger, it is becoming our only choice". Can't really say that with a straight face and expect everybody to accept it...


Hahahaha!!! :lol: ...Too good! :lol:

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Unread postby khalidschofield » Fri Aug 26, 2005 6:12 am

just played with the x86 ver of mac os. Look like good stuff. Don't like the idea of running mac os on a bog standard dell mind you. Thats why I bought my dual 2Ghz G5 and my shiny new powerbook 1.5Ghz machines.

I love the port command in mac os :D It's a very nice tool to use.

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Re: osx on any pc

Unread postby hamei » Fri Aug 26, 2005 6:18 am

zahal wrote:Seems like the genie is out of the bottle:

http://www.tech-recipes.com/apple_mac_tips964.html

Oh kewl ! Now maybe we'll start seeing some OS X software in the electricity market :lol:

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Unread postby somecodemonkey » Tue Aug 30, 2005 12:14 pm

I was sure i heard something screaming from across the atlantic... must be old steve when he found out :p

Well this whole IBM/Intel thing is doing what apple marketing want. People talking about the brand. Next time i go to buy a computer Mactels will be in full swing but i might just get a Dual G5 Powermac for old times sake.

Considering the amount of arguing between apple and IBM about processors it would not suprise me if IMB told them to sod off and go crawl to intel. In the end will it change how OSX runs? Nah just means that we have an intel inside sticker to peel off our shiney new macs :roll:
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Unread postby gamerKarl » Wed Sep 07, 2005 8:35 am

Sweet! Any idea what kind of apps you can use with x86 Tiger? This would make a great dual-boot for my brand-spanking new Dual Core system :twisted:

Hard to believe, now that INTEL's engineers have admitted their dual core is a "rush-job":

I agree with that. The Pentium-D is a very, VERY fast cpu, and it's a lot cheaper than AMD's X2s. However, the design is rather primitive- simply a pair of Prescott cores connected with an on-die 800mhz system bus (Yes, the P-D is listed as using the "Smithfield" core, don't listen to that) Additionally, the chip creates an inordinate amount of heat. Anybody here familiar with how rediculously hot Prescotts run? Now, imagine having 2 of those, with the same amount of surface area. The Damn thing is a 130watt chip, on a 1" die. He's HARD to keep cool. I'm very pleased with my P-D, but I won't buy another one until Intel gets these heat issues sorted out, and possibly reworks the architecture.
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