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Re: $19.99 OSX Apple Server

Posted: Wed May 18, 2016 6:27 pm
by skywriter
OK, I can't believe I wasted all that time trying to get Lion Server Installed - when all I had to do was set the Date & Time back to 2012 and everything installed out of the box. sheesh! Finally got Lion Server loaded and running problem free. whee! just in time for tomorrows fiasco to begin!

Re: $19.99 OSX Apple Server

Posted: Sat May 21, 2016 5:42 pm
by skywriter
Welp, ther second server I bought was also a Mac1,1 - I goofed up all the cross referencing and bought the wrong server.

Good news was, all that was necessary was the build a El Capitan disk on a supported server (of which I had two already) and then replace the boot.efi's with a special boot.efi, and El Capitan was then operable on a Mac1,1. So much incompletely specified information out there - it was almost like being in the Linux-hell-hole again. Luckily, I found the simplest solution that required the minimal information to execute. And success - El Capitan and Latest Server - whee! Also, got a lion server along the way running.

Re: $19.99 OSX Apple Server

Posted: Sun May 22, 2016 7:16 am
by skywriter
So... Anyone actually running the New Apple Server?

Re: $19.99 OSX Apple Server

Posted: Mon May 23, 2016 1:35 am
by fu
hmmm no new server at home, but since you ended up with two times the same MP, whacha gonna do about it?

assign different server duties to each one or put one in the studio and turn it into a recording box?

Re: $19.99 OSX Apple Server

Posted: Mon May 23, 2016 1:36 am
by Shiunbird
skywriter wrote:So... Anyone actually running the New Apple Server?


I have El Captain server installed.

Re: $19.99 OSX Apple Server

Posted: Mon May 23, 2016 1:47 pm
by skywriter
@fu, I have 3 Mac Pro's and 2 Power Mac's, all of them the tin tower design - I love it! They kind of play out like this:
Computer Generation one:
1) Dual 2.3 Ghz G5 running Leopard Server - This was my old Time Machine, and file server. It's the one that has 3-4 Drobo Pro's attached to it.
2) Quad 2.5 Ghz G5 running Leopard - This one holds Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro 8 and it connected up to the central video monitor in the studio for A/V projects. This one also has an e-SATA card with a 1TB 5-slot Drobo for large local file storage.
Computer Generation Two:
3) 8 Core 3.0 Ghz Intel C2D running Yosemite - This one holds Logic Pro 9 and Protools, and any other Studio staple for signal processing and synthesizer librarian/editors. It has two 30 inch cinema displays. Luscious!
4) Quad core 2.66 Ghz Intel C2D running El Capitan and Server 5.1 - new file server and Time Machine server.
5) Quad Core 3.0 Ghz Intel C2D running El Capitan and Server 5.1 - new utility server; App Caching

4 & 5, and the new servers, of course, and I will learn more about them. I mostly want ahead with the new server for the Caching and my El Capitan iMac developed a TM with Leopard Server making backups impossible. The ReadyNAS's support TM, but not all versions of OS X play nice with it - hoping El Capitan TM will satisfy all.

Current outstanding issues are:
1) Screen Sharing performance to El Capitan is abysmal - it's terrific with Leopard - also, headless servers present as 800x600. Ugh! Luckily OS X Server can server are a remote management tool - so remote configuration of OS X Server is OK.

Pic (I have one additional Drobo Pro and a ReadyNAS coming):
image.jpeg

Re: $19.99 OSX Apple Server

Posted: Mon May 23, 2016 1:51 pm
by uunix
skywriter wrote:@fu, I have 3 Mac Pro's and 2 Power Mac's, all of them the tin tower design - I love it! They kind of play out like this:
Computer Generation one:
1) Dual 2.3 Ghz G5 running Leopard Server - This was my old Time Machine, and file server. It's the one that has 3-4 Drobo Pro's attached to it.
2) Quad 2.5 Ghz G5 running Leopard - This one holds Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro 8 and it connected up to the central video monitor in the studio for A/V projects. This one also has an e-SATA card with a 1TB 5-slot Drobo for large local file storage.
Computer Generation Two:
3) 8 Core 3.0 Ghz Intel C2D running Yosemite - This one holds Logic Pro 9 and Protools, and any other Studio staple for signal processing and synthesizer librarian/editors. It has two 30 inch cinema displays. Luscious!
4) Quad core 2.66 Ghz Intel C2D running El Capitan and Server 5.1 - new file server and Time Machine server.
5) Quad Core 3.0 Ghz Intel C2D running El Capitan and Server 5.1 - new utility server; App Caching

4 & 5, and the new servers, of course, and I will learn more about them. I mostly want ahead with the new server for the Caching and my El Capitan iMac developed a TM with Leopard Server making backups impossible. The ReadyNAS's support TM, but not all versions of OS X play nice with it - hoping El Capitan TM will satisfy all.

Current outstanding issues are:
1) Screen Sharing performance to El Capitan is abysmal - it's terrific with Leopard - also, headless servers present as 800x600. Ugh! Luckily OS X Server can server are a remote management tool - so remote configuration of OS X Server is OK.

Pic (I have one additional Drobo Pro and a ReadyNAS coming):
image.jpeg

That really is I.T. PORN!!!

Re: $19.99 OSX Apple Server

Posted: Mon May 23, 2016 1:58 pm
by skywriter
Shiunbird wrote:
skywriter wrote:So... Anyone actually running the New Apple Server?


I have El Captain server installed.


What are you running Server on? I have a few problems:
1) Screen sharing between El Capitan machine are terrible; iMac and Mac Pro.
2) Screen Sharing Screen size is 800x600, no matter what I do, except attach a monitor too it.
3) I can't use a mounted share as a repository for Caching. Seems odd? The boot disk works, but a AFS share won't. Weird.

My main Server interests were the Caching, File Servering, TM, and Gige Ethernet Xsan.

Re: $19.99 OSX Apple Server

Posted: Mon May 23, 2016 2:02 pm
by guardian452

Re: $19.99 OSX Apple Server

Posted: Mon May 23, 2016 2:20 pm
by skywriter
uunix wrote:That really is I.T. PORN!!!


LOL! We never really grow out of it do we? First SGI's, then Studios, and Observatory gear, now back computer gear :-) I guess having had a career in computer architecture lays out some forgone conclusion. :-)

Re: $19.99 OSX Apple Server

Posted: Mon May 23, 2016 2:32 pm
by skywriter
guardian452 wrote:http://forums.nekochan.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=16729811

https://eshop.macsales.com/item/NewerTech/CBLMDPHEAD/


AWESOME guardian! And I already for the Display Size app :-) This is what I hate about 'the Internet', there is so much information out there, finding an apropos point if often impossible. This is a delightful find :-) I ordered two!

Re: $19.99 OSX Apple Server

Posted: Mon May 23, 2016 3:42 pm
by skywriter
skywriter wrote:
guardian452 wrote:http://forums.nekochan.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=16729811

https://eshop.macsales.com/item/NewerTech/CBLMDPHEAD/


AWESOME guardian! And I already for the Display Size app :-) This is what I hate about 'the Internet', there is so much information out there, finding an apropos point if often impossible. This is a delightful find :-) I ordered two!


I discovered another alternative. Of the video cards I had the NVIDIA GeForce GT 120 512MB can run headless without a loopback at full speed. There is little if any additional drag from Screen Sharing on objects moving on the screen, also the full range of display size is available with "Display Menu".

Crackin' !!

Re: $19.99 OSX Apple Server

Posted: Mon May 23, 2016 3:49 pm
by skywriter
Shiunbird wrote:
skywriter wrote:So... Anyone actually running the New Apple Server?


I have El Captain server installed.



Hi Shiunbird, what have you been doing with it? Any clue about Volume restrictions on Caching? I would like to be able to use either an networked iSCSI Volume, or AFS mounted Volume. If worse comes to worse, I could plex some drives internally; I hate to do that with all the networked storage at my COMMAND!

Re: $19.99 OSX Apple Server

Posted: Tue May 24, 2016 12:42 am
by Shiunbird
skywriter wrote:Hi Shiunbird, what have you been doing with it? Any clue about Volume restrictions on Caching? I would like to be able to use either an networked iSCSI Volume, or AFS mounted Volume. If worse comes to worse, I could plex some drives internally; I hate to do that with all the networked storage at my COMMAND!


I use mostly the VPN server part, since it just (mostly) works and it is much less of pain to configure than other solutions. Also I managed to integrated with my Active Directory for authentication very easily (yes, I need to learn AD for work).

iSCSI support is zero without third-party applications. Zero, nada. It's awful.

My NAS is FreeNAS, and I just export the same storage via AFS, NFS and CIFS.
My Macs are backed-up to it via AFS (time machine support in FreeNAS has never failed me, although I do cold backups via rsync).

I have zero local storage in my Mini. I installed 2 SSDs (got the dual drive upgrade kit from ifixit), 2x 80GB. One for OS and some apps, and the other for the other apps. The rest goes on the NAS (including many applications).

Caching apparently only works with local volumes. And that's another thing I HATE in OS X Server. For example, I wanted my OS X machine to be my time machine server backup server (since it is officially supported), but I can only use local storage for it. I went around many restrictions by using hard links, but I only go for it since I am mostly the only user of the things I host.

Re: $19.99 OSX Apple Server

Posted: Tue May 24, 2016 12:52 am
by devv
Shiunbird wrote:My NAS is FreeNAS, and I just export the same storage via AFS, NFS and CIFS.


Hey, that's interesting. How exactly do you export FreeNAS storage via AFS?

Thanks,
Dev