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Re: $19.99 OSX Apple Server

Posted: Wed May 11, 2016 5:51 am
by guardian452
Hey Sky, have you looked at the Synology NASes? Appears that they can do a lot of neat stuff...

Re: $19.99 OSX Apple Server

Posted: Wed May 11, 2016 8:33 am
by skywriter
@guardian, no I've got plenty of money 'invested' (hah!) in managed storage platforms already. Between the (2) ReadyNAS providing 1/2GB high performance 'featured' storage, and a MAc Server 1.5 front end on (4) Drobo RAID boxes, I have more TB's than I can use for the perceived future. These Drobo boxes have 8 slots each :-)

I'll check the Synology's out again. I remember a friend mentioning them way back when I first settled on Drobo & ReadyNAS, 5+ years ago.

Re: $19.99 OSX Apple Server

Posted: Wed May 11, 2016 5:56 pm
by ClassicHasClass
skywriter wrote:Sorry, it dropped the r in sync. Thanks!


That doesn't speak very well for its data integrity! :mrgreen:

Re: $19.99 OSX Apple Server

Posted: Thu May 12, 2016 8:20 am
by Shiunbird
skywriter wrote:Sorry, it dropped the r in sync. Thanks!


I use rsync with my G5 (10.5 and 10.4) and my 10.11 Mac Mini and plus a bunch of all machines together with some cron stuff backing up to FreeNAS, and the Mini actually uses rsync to backup my Hyper-V machines (don't hate me) to a remote system and it all works.

My VMs go off for patching every month (Windows) and the script running on my 10.11 detects the VMs that are down (via ping) and rsync out of my home the VHD file to the FreeNAS storage.

It has never failed.

It doesn't answer your question directly, but I hope it helps.

Re: $19.99 OSX Apple Server

Posted: Fri May 13, 2016 9:16 am
by skywriter
Thanks Shiunbird!

Him, well the OS X I bought off of eBay wasn't the Server version. I guess I wan't looking too carefully at what the listing was and had too much faith in what my search actually yielded. I looked again, and there wasn't any OS X Lion Server for sale there. I was able to call Apple Sales and order a copy for $19.99. They will send me a digital redemption code to purchase it. What is annoying is that old Server's are up on the App store. However, you can't get them by plugging it into the search field. If you have a URL you can get to it.

I found Mountain Lion Server that way. I didn't try to purchase it though... If anyone wants to try: here is a Server 2.2.5 https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/os-x-server/id537441259?ls=1&mt=12 It will only run on Mountain Lion!

Btw I signed up for Apple Developer, where I am ostensibly able to download any server of these softwares for free. Unfortunately, I'm unable to grok the developer system yet, so I can't find this stuff. I would like to get Mavericks Server... *UPDATE*

OK, I found all the delicious servers on the Apple Developers Download area Whee!!! Kid in a candy store!

Re: $19.99 OSX Apple Server

Posted: Fri May 13, 2016 10:44 am
by guardian452
I know on iOS, if you try to download an app on an old system version, and there is an older app available, it will download the version of the app that is compatible with your system. (Know this from my 2010 ipad) Does this not work on the mac?

Re: $19.99 OSX Apple Server

Posted: Fri May 13, 2016 11:21 am
by skywriter
The App Store for OS X works the same way for most everything except .... unless you're downloading the most recent versions of stuff, or downloading OS X Server :-( So a couple of problems:
1) Can't upgrade to OS X 10.7.5 (lion) - Combo update is corrupt.
2) There are four files in the Server list
a) admin tools
b) delta update
c) combo update
d) rtf doc
2 cont.) At 10.7.4, install doesn't like something about my install and won't load: combo or delta updates. It does load server tools, and they work OK - I can see my Leopard Server on a G5.

download rates from the developers site is excruciatingly slow... 1/2MB at best per file. Ugh.

Re: $19.99 OSX Apple Server

Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 5:48 am
by skywriter
Well That (Mac Pro Mac1,1 running Lion Server 10.7.5) Didn't work. So many stupid unresolved issues. Ugh. Up next; Mac 3,1 running El Capitan with Server 5.0.

Re: $19.99 OSX Apple Server

Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 8:07 am
by guardian452
That's my machine (macpro1,1). I stopped messing around with the hacky stuff after Yosemite. I don't even know if it's possible to run 10.11 on it. But 10.10 runs great with tiamo's boot.efi. Even cellular calls work through facetime (not so well without a mike, but, it rings!) and imessage/handoff, all that stuff.

When/if yosemite server stops meeting my needs or this machine goes tits-up I'm just going to buy a new mac pro. It was a hassle to get it upgraded to 10.9 and then 10.10, not to mention system updates were always fraught with peril. I skipped 10.7 and 10.8. I had the time then, but I don't have the time now. Likewise, a new machine would have been too expensive then but I could easily justify it now. Needs change.

Coming from a G5 you would be impressed by the performance of even an older mini (say a 2010 or 2011 model) which could run the latest server just fine. Hell, so would I, coming from a macpro1,1. But... as a wise man (Borat) once said... the mini is for girls :lol:



There is a script that will automate the creation of installation media called SFOTT (Sixty Four On Thirty Two) http://oemden.com/sixty-four-on-thirty- ... ivatetest/ It's what I used when I installed 10.9 and 10.10 and it's pretty idiot-proof. Some original graphics cards (7300GT, etc) don't work past lion, either. I have a radeon 5770 which works fine.

Re: $19.99 OSX Apple Server

Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 10:16 am
by skywriter
A Mac1,1 can only run up to Lion. Perhaps you have something else? https://eshop.macsales.com/guides/Mac_OS_X_Compatibility

I just put leopard server on it for now. My Mac3,1 comes this week - this should support el capitan and server 5.0.

Re: $19.99 OSX Apple Server

Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 10:59 am
by guardian452
With the Tiamo boot.efi, OSX thinks your mac pro has a 64-bit efi. You can then add your machine ID to the compatiblity list of newer versions. The SFOTT tool does this automatically by creating install media which you can use like any other OSX install disk.

The only trouble I have had with it was 10.10.2 or 10.10.3 update which rewrote /boot. Had to copy them back over with another machibe, but if I wasn't a dummy I could have copied them after the update but before rebooting. Obviously a 3,1 is the ideal solution ;)

Re: $19.99 OSX Apple Server

Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 11:19 am
by uunix
Has anyone set up OSX server as an NIS server? I'm thinking of it, since leaving a mac mini(for girls) is cost efficient.

Re: $19.99 OSX Apple Server

Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 11:56 am
by skywriter
RE:Tiamo boot Eli, oh, so hackintosh your Macintosh? Ugh... Oh well, I'm not getting anywhere with 'doing it the right way'. I'll give it a shot maybe I can use a more modern server than leopard.

Re: $19.99 OSX Apple Server

Posted: Tue May 17, 2016 5:05 am
by skywriter
So guardian, what version of Xcode has the version of packagermaker that will run on Mavericks? I can't find a answer that doesn't lead me on downloading from apple at a blazing 250kb/sec. It takes hours to flesh out a lead that doesn't work.

I've spent days trying to get one of these scheme's running. Almost time to give up, and just run leopard server on it.

Re: $19.99 OSX Apple Server

Posted: Tue May 17, 2016 5:07 am
by skywriter
At any rate, my 'real' Mac Pro comes on Thursday, and I can load modern software without a hassle.