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Tim Cook's new way...

Unread postby Oskar45 » Tue Oct 30, 2012 1:37 pm

...do you think it's the right one?
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Re: Tim Cook's new way...

Unread postby pentium » Tue Oct 30, 2012 1:46 pm

Don't know if that was steve's body just decomposing still or he rolled over a little in his grave.
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Re: Tim Cook's new way...

Unread postby guardian452 » Tue Oct 30, 2012 5:29 pm

No. I miss my Thinkpads. There are a lot of off-topic posts here (mine included) complaining about the fruit brigade's bold new direction.

Meanwhile, (snow) Leopard still does everything I need it to do perfectly well. I just shake my head when I look at their new stuff.

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They've pissed all over their human interface guidelines; read "zen of steve jobs" and they've ruined most of steve's defining principles that were outlined in that book as well..

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Re: Tim Cook's new way...

Unread postby jan-jaap » Wed Oct 31, 2012 1:53 am

guardian452 wrote:They've pissed all over their human interface guidelines

If you're referring to the use of skeuomorphic interfaces, this shake-up could be good news
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Unread postby ClassicHasClass » Wed Oct 31, 2012 9:13 am

I lost interest in Apple when they went Intel.
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Re: Tim Cook's new way...

Unread postby tomvos » Thu Nov 01, 2012 9:01 am

Oskar45 wrote:...do you think it's the right one?


Sure, because after Apple will design itself near oblivion in the next ten years, Scott Forstall has the chance to return to Apple and rescue them (like Steve Jobs did after being fired).

And I’m a sucker for these tales where the hero is exiled only to return in the times where he is needed most. 8-)
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Re: Tim Cook's new way...

Unread postby skywriter » Thu Nov 01, 2012 3:33 pm

As long as its not as crappy as the alternative; windows and linux, it is serving its purpose.

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Re: Tim Cook's new way...

Unread postby guardian452 » Thu Nov 01, 2012 4:05 pm

I would say it (OSX) is worse than windows, yes. In terms of stability, definitely... usability, probably. iCloud works better with windows than OSX (any version of OSX) and it isn't iCloud's fault or windows's fault. (mail, calendar, contacts, photo stream, is all that I use icloud for)

iOS was the best compared to blackberry or a cheap javaME featurephone back in the day, but the only thing that keeps it around now is all the entrenched hardware it needs to support (at least for me), that just doesn't exist anywhere else. It works fine but it doesn't do anything beyond that. No excitement. Which I suppose is what I really want in a cell phone. If you're a nerd then you should definitely be looking elsewhere.

jan-jaap wrote:If you're referring to the use of skeuomorphic interfaces, this shake-up could be good news
I liked that part of it. It was cute and it made it easy to tell which app was where even when (for example) only a tiny bit of the calendar was showing, or you used that bastardized new version of expose called.. what was it?... mission control.

The problem came in with all the extra buttons scattered loosely across the title bar for various features such as full screen, saving, etc. The notification center I thought would be useful for facebook (facepalm) until I realized I would have to squish together the facebook people with the contacts people on my phone. No way around it, at least I didn't bother to look too hard.

All the old 10.6 stuff still does everything I need it to do. If it weren't for the power consumption and lack of portability I could do everything I need on my onyx. And then some :)

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Re: Tim Cook's new way...

Unread postby dclough » Thu Nov 01, 2012 4:08 pm

The market will determine whether his way is "the right way" through the financial success of the company. In the meantime though, considering the high level of guidance Steve provided up until the bitter end, I personally think Apple may struggle to adapt successfully to the Cook methodology and will most likely go through a strategy-shift not unlike the Sculley era of the 80's and early 90's.

Not saying that we're going to see (authorized) white-box clones any time soon, but I think some products will be championed while others will fall by the wayside. Of course, that's easy for me to say because it's already happening!

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Re: Tim Cook's new way...

Unread postby skywriter » Thu Nov 01, 2012 4:30 pm

Guard, yeah keep believing that.
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Re: Tim Cook's new way...

Unread postby hamei » Thu Nov 01, 2012 5:12 pm

dclough wrote:The market will determine whether his way is "the right way" through the financial success of the company.

Jesus H Keerist, are you guys still gobbling up that pap ? Grow up, would you please ?

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Re: Tim Cook's new way...

Unread postby dclough » Thu Nov 01, 2012 7:04 pm

hamei wrote:
dclough wrote:The market will determine whether his way is "the right way" through the financial success of the company.

Jesus H Keerist, are you guys still gobbling up that pap ? Grow up, would you please ?

Gobbling up what? Basic and obvious principles of economics and business management?

Apple is a publicly traded corporation and as such their goal is to create value for shareholders. If Tim Cook can establish and enforce policies that result in additional value to shareholders, then he is doing "right" by his shareholders.

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Re: Tim Cook's new way...

Unread postby hamei » Thu Nov 01, 2012 8:10 pm

dclough wrote:Gobbling up what? Basic and obvious principles of economics and business management?

Honestly, this is a very pretty little story to put cranky children to sleep. But it's nothing but pig shit in a large economy size bowl. Did they teach you to use your eyes and ears and mind in school or was it just high-level training in regurgitating the pap written by shills for the kleptocrats ?

That whole Cato Institution propaganda blizzard is just that : pigshit. If you actually believe it you seriously need a reeducation session in the countryside.

Sorry, just telling you the truth.

Apple is a publicly traded corporation and as such their goal is to create value for shareholders. If Tim Cook can establish and enforce policies that result in additional value to shareholders, then he is doing "right" by his shareholders.

You're nucking futz if you believe that. Tim Cook's goal in life is to grab as much money as he can for himself and to hell with the rest of the world. If you don't believe that I have a lovely golden bridge to sell you.

After all the disclosures of the past few years, if you still accept those lies then you need your head examined. I'm not trying to be rude here, just speaking the truth. Time to wakey up now, it was a nice fantasy but that's all it was - a giant fantasy. If you keep swallowing that garbage you'll end up in a double wide under the bridge down by the river, with the rest of the 99%.

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Re: Tim Cook's new way...

Unread postby dclough » Thu Nov 01, 2012 8:21 pm

hamei wrote:Tim Cook's goal in life is to grab as much money as he can for himself and to hell with the rest of the world. If you don't believe that I have a lovely golden bridge to sell you.

Because you know him and he's personally told you that? Oh, you don't know him, you say? Okay then, come back when you have more to say than just "eek the whole world's out to get me!" And I'm the one who needs to grow up. Heh.

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Re: Tim Cook's new way...

Unread postby recondas » Fri Nov 02, 2012 3:18 am

hamei wrote: it was a nice fantasy but that's all it was - a giant fantasy. If you keep swallowing that garbage you'll end up in a double wide under the bridge down by the river, with the rest of the 99%.

Times they are a changin'..... the currently quoted ratio for that particular fantasy is now 47%.
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