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Re: New arrival: Power Mac G4

Unread postby ClassicHasClass » Wed Oct 24, 2012 4:37 pm

For something better, check out the actively maintained PowerPC Firefox fork at http://www.floodgap.com/software/tenfourfox/ .


I hear the maintainer is a real jerk, though.
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Re: New arrival: Power Mac G4

Unread postby josehill » Wed Oct 24, 2012 9:18 pm

ClassicHasClass wrote:
For something better, check out the actively maintained PowerPC Firefox fork at http://www.floodgap.com/software/tenfourfox/ .


I hear the maintainer is a real jerk, though.


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Re: New arrival: Power Mac G4

Unread postby hamei » Thu Oct 25, 2012 1:57 am

ClassicHasClass wrote:I hear the maintainer is a real jerk, though.

If the program works, he can be Ivan the Terrible for all I care. I'm sick of lovely sweet kind maintainers and shit software (could we be speaking of thee, Fireflop Dearest ?)

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Re: New arrival: Power Mac G4

Unread postby zmttoxics » Thu Oct 25, 2012 2:47 am

I think you guys missed the part where ClassicHasClass's email address is at the floodgap.com domain. ;)
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Re: New arrival: Power Mac G4

Unread postby ClassicHasClass » Thu Oct 25, 2012 8:16 am

Man, you ruin my fun. ;)
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:Indy: indy, 150MHz R4400SC, 256MB RAM, XL24, 6.5.10
:Indigo2IMP: purplehaze, 175MHz R10000, Solid IMPACT
probably posted from Image bruce, Quad 2.5GHz PowerPC 970MP, 16GB RAM, Mac OS X 10.4.11
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Re: New arrival: Power Mac G4

Unread postby hamei » Fri Oct 26, 2012 7:02 pm

ClassicHasClass wrote:Man, you ruin my fun.

So you're not really Ivan the Terrible ?

Damn :(

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Re: New arrival: Power Mac G4

Unread postby ItsMeOnly » Sat Oct 27, 2012 6:52 am

...anyway: two and a half hours of work, and this is the result:
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Re: New arrival: Power Mac G4

Unread postby tux » Sat Oct 27, 2012 7:29 am

ItsMeOnly wrote:...anyway: two and a half hours of work, and this is the result:
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Wow, nice work. I never had a G4, but it sounds sweet.
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Re: New arrival: Power Mac G4

Unread postby ItsMeOnly » Sat Nov 10, 2012 10:44 am

Classically...
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Re: New arrival: Power Mac G4

Unread postby ClassicHasClass » Sat Nov 10, 2012 3:12 pm

Pretty. But with 768MB of RAM, there's really no point to Virtual Memory being enabled except if you expect to run a *lot* of stuff simultaneously, from which you would benefit from the file mapping. Otherwise, OS 9 is happier with it off, and faster.
smit happens.

:Fuel: bigred, 900MHz R16K, 4GB RAM, V12 DCD, 6.5.30
:Indy: indy, 150MHz R4400SC, 256MB RAM, XL24, 6.5.10
:Indigo2IMP: purplehaze, 175MHz R10000, Solid IMPACT
probably posted from Image bruce, Quad 2.5GHz PowerPC 970MP, 16GB RAM, Mac OS X 10.4.11
plus IBM POWER6 p520 * Apple Network Server 500 * RDI PrecisionBook * BeBox * Solbourne S3000 * Commodore 128 * many more...

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Re: New arrival: Power Mac G4

Unread postby ItsMeOnly » Sun Nov 11, 2012 11:47 am

ClassicHasClass wrote:Virtual Memory being enabled

That's apparently OSX "classic" mode's doing, it keeps enabling it...

FX5200 and Radeon 9200 coming my way. The previous owner says the former is rather unstable (kernel panics too often to please) under Tiger, but rock solid under Leopard. Did anyone encounter such problems before?
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Re: New arrival: Power Mac G4

Unread postby ClassicHasClass » Tue Nov 13, 2012 6:33 am

Use separate system folders for OS 9 and Classic. You'll get a lot more mileage that way. You can just duplicate the System Folder and tell Classic to use the duped folder.

Usually it's the other way around -- some marginal systems are iffy in Leopard but rock solid in Tiger. Tiger is a much more optimal choice for this machine, though you could coax it to run Leopard, of course.
smit happens.

:Fuel: bigred, 900MHz R16K, 4GB RAM, V12 DCD, 6.5.30
:Indy: indy, 150MHz R4400SC, 256MB RAM, XL24, 6.5.10
:Indigo2IMP: purplehaze, 175MHz R10000, Solid IMPACT
probably posted from Image bruce, Quad 2.5GHz PowerPC 970MP, 16GB RAM, Mac OS X 10.4.11
plus IBM POWER6 p520 * Apple Network Server 500 * RDI PrecisionBook * BeBox * Solbourne S3000 * Commodore 128 * many more...

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Re: New arrival: Power Mac G4

Unread postby ItsMeOnly » Tue Nov 13, 2012 10:46 am

ClassicHasClass wrote:Use separate system folders for OS 9 and Classic. You'll get a lot more mileage that way. You can just duplicate the System Folder and tell Classic to use the duped folder.

Tried, worked, thanks for the hint.

However, I'm somewhat disappointed with the performance of 9.2.2 on this machine. Ran The Songs of Distant Earth and, despite of superior hardware over LC630, the performance was mediocre (choppy video, not much load speed improvement over AppleCD 300 in LC). Plus, DVD playback doesn't work for some reason and network uplink is a joke - 80 kb/s, sometimes falling below 16 kb/s.
In "classic" mode it's even worse - a thing that ought to be expected, but I wouldn't expect it being THAT worse.
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Re: New arrival: Power Mac G4

Unread postby ClassicHasClass » Tue Nov 13, 2012 5:27 pm

Do you have an accelerator for the video card enabled? That would be the first thing I'd check, especially since the DVD player may depend on it. The Rage Pro should support that.

Classic mode may or may not benefit from that, but OS 9 natively definitely will.
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:Fuel: bigred, 900MHz R16K, 4GB RAM, V12 DCD, 6.5.30
:Indy: indy, 150MHz R4400SC, 256MB RAM, XL24, 6.5.10
:Indigo2IMP: purplehaze, 175MHz R10000, Solid IMPACT
probably posted from Image bruce, Quad 2.5GHz PowerPC 970MP, 16GB RAM, Mac OS X 10.4.11
plus IBM POWER6 p520 * Apple Network Server 500 * RDI PrecisionBook * BeBox * Solbourne S3000 * Commodore 128 * many more...

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Re: New arrival: Power Mac G4

Unread postby ItsMeOnly » Wed Nov 14, 2012 12:41 am

ClassicHasClass wrote:Do you have an accelerator for the video card enabled? That would be the first thing I'd check, especially since the DVD player may depend on it. The Rage Pro should support that.

Yes, both Rage Pro Accelerator and generic ATI accelerator enabled. Also, I have finally received two "flashed" AGP cards, an FX5200 and Radeon 9200. Will see if that helps.
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