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New arrival: Power Mac G4

Unread postby ItsMeOnly » Tue Oct 16, 2012 1:38 pm

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Currently dead battery most likely, refuses to boot: when I forced booting from drive it crashed and now it shows unbootable drive. Tiger coming tomorrow :)
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Re: New arrival: Power Mac G4

Unread postby josehill » Tue Oct 16, 2012 1:58 pm

I used a 450 MHz dual processor model as my main work desktop for several years. A very nice, well designed machine -- very easy to open and upgrade, too.

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Re: New arrival: Power Mac G4

Unread postby ClassicHasClass » Tue Oct 16, 2012 5:28 pm

Sawtooths (I hope that isn't a Yikes!) are pretty solid machines. My fileserver is a Sawtooth with an FW800 card connected to a RAID. It also has a ZIP drive for the once a decade I encounter a ZIP disk I want to investigate.
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Re: New arrival: Power Mac G4

Unread postby ItsMeOnly » Fri Oct 19, 2012 2:20 pm

ClassicHasClass wrote:Sawtooths (I hope that isn't a Yikes!) are pretty solid machines. My fileserver is a Sawtooth with an FW800 card connected to a RAID. It also has a ZIP drive for the once a decade I encounter a ZIP disk I want to investigate.

That is Yikes! :(, and it's probably the most botched machine I ever had to restore.

Starting from the fact it requires Apple-flashed DVD drive, through inability to accept SCSI controllers of any kind, to finally me being unable to even start installation.
I found Tiger media on CD and, while the machine even booted, I was always left with a blank screen with Finder not starting. After several reboots that even fails, because kernel panics (without obviously no flipping mean to see what's wrong, because startup was so dumbed-down by Apple).
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Re: New arrival: Power Mac G4

Unread postby robespierre » Fri Oct 19, 2012 3:58 pm

I don't think that's right; if you hold down command-option-S you can see all of the "dmesg" output from the boot process.
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Re: New arrival: Power Mac G4

Unread postby ItsMeOnly » Sat Oct 20, 2012 3:47 am

Update: isolated the problem to a faulty DIMM. Now I'm running on single 256 MB PC133 stick, got installer working, but somehow Disk Utility freezes on formatting the drive.
Trying "Zero out the data" and it's kinda working for now.

Update 2: zero-ing out worked, now installing Tiger. Unfortunately the machine freezes way too often: I suspect CPU overheating as the heatsink is kludged onto CPU with plastic strips.
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Re: New arrival: Power Mac G4

Unread postby ClassicHasClass » Sat Oct 20, 2012 1:01 pm

Yeah, the Yikes! are not too good (they earn their name from the video architecture, but that heatsink sounds absolutely primitive). However, it sure sounds like you might have a problem on the logic board as well.
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:Fuel: bigred, 900MHz R16K, 4GB RAM, V12 DCD, 6.5.30
:Indy: indy, 150MHz R4400SC, 256MB RAM, XL24, 6.5.10
:Indigo2IMP: purplehaze, 175MHz R10000, Solid IMPACT
probably posted from Image bruce, Quad 2.5GHz PowerPC 970MP, 16GB RAM, Mac OS X 10.4.11
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Re: New arrival: Power Mac G4

Unread postby ItsMeOnly » Mon Oct 22, 2012 11:48 am

"so it is determined": the logic board is fine, but the processor overheats due to loose heatsink. The freeze "reliably" occurs after about 2 minutes (+/- 15 seconds) of heavy activity, but when the machine is idle or with little activity, it can run very long without any issues.
There's good news though: I may have CPU upgrade and I have already put 768 MB RAM and new PRAM battery.
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Re: New arrival: Power Mac G4

Unread postby ItsMeOnly » Tue Oct 23, 2012 10:27 am

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Problem solved! (PM4G AGP a.k.a. Sawtooth:))
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Re: New arrival: Power Mac G4

Unread postby ClassicHasClass » Tue Oct 23, 2012 1:03 pm

There you go! My Sawtooth looks identical to the one on the left.
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:Fuel: bigred, 900MHz R16K, 4GB RAM, V12 DCD, 6.5.30
:Indy: indy, 150MHz R4400SC, 256MB RAM, XL24, 6.5.10
:Indigo2IMP: purplehaze, 175MHz R10000, Solid IMPACT
probably posted from Image bruce, Quad 2.5GHz PowerPC 970MP, 16GB RAM, Mac OS X 10.4.11
plus IBM POWER6 p520 * Apple Network Server 500 * RDI PrecisionBook * BeBox * Solbourne S3000 * Commodore 128 * many more...

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Re: New arrival: Power Mac G4

Unread postby ItsMeOnly » Tue Oct 23, 2012 2:45 pm

YAY! OSX and updates installed, already enabled nfs mounts, Fireflop in version 3.6 but hey, at least it's 3.6... ;-)
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Re: New arrival: Power Mac G4

Unread postby josehill » Tue Oct 23, 2012 4:38 pm

For something better, check out the actively maintained PowerPC Firefox fork at http://www.floodgap.com/software/tenfourfox/ .

ItsMeOnly wrote:YAY! OSX and updates installed, already enabled nfs mounts, Fireflop in version 3.6 but hey, at least it's 3.6... ;-)

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Re: New arrival: Power Mac G4

Unread postby ItsMeOnly » Wed Oct 24, 2012 12:35 am

josehill wrote:For something better, check out the actively maintained PowerPC Firefox fork at http://www.floodgap.com/software/tenfourfox/

Yup, checked, not yet downloaded - finished at midnight yesterday so I decided to call it a day :)

Also, attempting to flash a Radeon 9250 to gain Core Graphics support.
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Re: New arrival: Power Mac G4

Unread postby zmttoxics » Wed Oct 24, 2012 3:31 am

I had a sawtooth at similar specs (except I had a flashed nvidia fx5200 card in there, that really helped when playing quake ;) ). Fun box for sure, first 3 drives pretty easily, gigabit nics, flashed video... Those were the days. I gave mine away around the time I sold my PMG5 and one of the eMacs.

Anyways, have fun with it! MSOffice 2004, Quake and Unreal are probably what I would have installed on it.
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Re: New arrival: Power Mac G4

Unread postby ItsMeOnly » Wed Oct 24, 2012 12:20 pm

Unfortunately, flashing both my 9250 and GF4MX did not succeed (incompatible ROMs, couldn't force), so I'm stuck with Rage Pro for now.
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