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Unread postPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 3:41 pm 
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I'm being asked to switch iBooks (they are identical units but one has a working backlight) and I can't seem to get Apple Software Update to work. I need it too otherwise I can't run the migration utility.
In a blue DV iBook with a fresh 10.3 install and a working wired internet connection, Software Update will time out and give error -1001. My current ibook does it too and this has been tested on multiple ethernet cables and switch ports. I last knew it worked about three months ago. I have run a permissions fix but if it's not working on a fresh install I am suspicious.

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Unread postPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 5:28 pm 
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Would manually downloading the 10.3.9 combo updater be a sufficient workaround? http://support.apple.com/downloads/Mac_ ... ate_10_3_9

(Sorry I can't be of greater assistance. It's been a long time since I last ran Panther.)


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Unread postPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 11:36 am 
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pentium wrote:
In a blue DV iBook with a fresh 10.3 install and a working wired internet connection, Software Update will time out and give error -1001.


You are still lucky. I did the same with my iMac G5. It installed the update but the iMac hanged after reboot. :-(

I finally downloaded combo updates and installed them manually step by step (10.3.5->10.3.6, 10.3.6->10.3.7 and so on).

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jirka wrote:
I finally downloaded combo updates and installed them manually step by step (10.3.5->10.3.6, 10.3.6->10.3.7 and so on).

Was there a particular reason why you chose not to run the single step 10.3.0 -> 10.3.9 combo update?


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Well that works in terms of updating but that does not load the rest of the updates and thus I'm not sure if I can perform the migration cleanly.

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Unread postPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 11:41 am 
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pentium wrote:
Well that works in terms of updating but that does not load the rest of the updates and thus I'm not sure if I can perform the migration cleanly.

My thinking was that perhaps getting to 10.3.9 might clear whatever problem was generating the -1001 error, and that any secondary updates (like Quicktime, iTunes, security updates) that might be needed would be downloadable after that. Keep in mind, though, that some of the secondary updates probably are included in the 10.3.9 combo updater. If the 10.3.9 update clears the error, then any secondary updates should subsequently download independently.

Do you get a -1001 error if you run software update on the command line (analogous to using "inst" vs "swmgr" in IRIX, e.g. by using "softwareupdate -l" or "softwareupdate -d")? For example, if the problem is something with the downloading process itself, "softwareupdate -l" should still tell you what updates you need, and then you would be able to download them manually.


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Another idea: are you using a wireless connection? Try disabling Airport and using an ethernet connection instead.


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Unread postPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 9:21 am 
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It's a wired connection to the wall. AirPort isn't connected.
What really confuses me is that it's not working either on the old iBook which only three months ago was grabbing updates no problem. I'll try using it at another internet connection today.

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Nope. On a different internet connection it's still the same. Weird.

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Unread postPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 5:04 pm 
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Hi Pentium.

Based upon your post, this evening I booted my MDD G4 into 10.3.9 and tested the Apple Software Update feature. It gives the error dialogue Software Update can't connect to the Update Server.

This makes me think the Mac OS X 10.3.9 Software Update server is down because I am able to surf the internet fine using the Opera browser on the system and I can even ping apple.com


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Unread postPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 5:57 pm 
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I just went poking around the Panther forum over at Apple Support, and it looks like a bunch of people have been running into this recently. Maybe Apple quietly discontinued automatic updates for Panther, or perhaps the Panther update server broke, and no one at Apple has noticed yet. https://discussions.apple.com/community ... nd_earlier


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The suspicion is that Software Update has been disabled for all versions of OS X prior to 10.4; 10.2 doesn't work either anymore, but 10.4 still does at least for now. You can still fetch the updates manually, but given that Apple has expunged much of their pre-OS X software, who knows for how long. I've started making image dumps of my 10.4 systems so that I don't have to rely on Software Update anymore if they need to be rebuilt.

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ClassicHasClass wrote:
I've started making image dumps of my 10.4 systems so that I don't have to rely on Software Update anymore if they need to be rebuilt.


Why not just select the option in Software Update to download & keep package?

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I already have them all downloaded anyway. The problem is applying them in order, and it's a slow process, so I'd rather just blast a disk image back.

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Unread postPosted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 4:12 pm 
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Well ball, that confirms my suspicion that Apple is cutting off people from updating their older systems.
Well I'll just have to figure out how to do imaging.

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