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Cheap NAS

Unread postby tunkaflux » Tue Feb 05, 2008 2:40 am

Hello,

I've been looking for a cheap NAS for home use, possibly with minimal power requirements. I would mainly use it to house my mp3 collection, some movies (and stream if possible) and for backups of course. Ideally, it would have RAID :)

I know the saying "Cheap, Fast, Good. Pick Any Two" is probably the first thing that comes to mind, however, I'm still interested in your comments and suggestions. Would it be better to buy a low cost pc and create something myself or buy a readymade NAS (Thecus etc)? I also have a Cobalt Qube 2 which isn't used...

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Re: Cheap NAS

Unread postby AlArenal » Tue Feb 05, 2008 3:02 am

Would you mind taking a router into consideration? There are quite a few WLAN DSL routers on the market with USB ports to plug in USB harddrives. For some there even exist Linux distros..
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Re: Cheap NAS

Unread postby deBug » Tue Feb 05, 2008 4:05 am

I can recommend FreeNAS. http://www.freenas.org/
I use it on a former laptop MB that I have built in to a 1 unit rack casing.

It is a very nice product.
Has NSF, CIFS, FTP etc.
Everything is configured through a very nice Webgui.
My unit takes about 20Watts power and is nearly silent.

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Re: Cheap NAS

Unread postby tunkaflux » Tue Feb 05, 2008 4:57 am

AlArenal wrote:Would you mind taking a router into consideration? There are quite a few WLAN DSL routers on the market with USB ports to plug in USB harddrives. For some there even exist Linux distros..

I was hoping I didn't have to take that route... I have looked at the NSLUG, but it has no redundancy whatsoever :(

deBug wrote:I can recommend FreeNAS. http://www.freenas.org/
I use it on a former laptop MB that I have built in to a 1 unit rack casing.

It is a very nice product.
Has NSF, CIFS, FTP etc.
Everything is configured through a very nice Webgui.
My unit takes about 20Watts power and is nearly silent.

The laptop use seems interesting... How did you attach extra drives to it or did you just use the laptopdrive?

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Re: Cheap NAS

Unread postby dc_v01 » Tue Feb 05, 2008 7:16 am

Depends on the definition of "cheap". I think the HP Mediavault series is certainly one of the most cost effective. I seems to recall $250 for 300GB, $350ish for 500GB. It runs Linux, supports NFS, GigE, and RAID 1 for redundancy is simply adding an extra drive and configuring. Extra SATA drives are pretty cheap. Doesn't draw that much power, idles the drives when not in use (configurable). Terrastations or whatever cost significantly more.

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Re: Cheap NAS

Unread postby zahal » Tue Feb 05, 2008 8:44 am

tunkaflux wrote: I also have a Cobalt Qube 2 which isn't used...


You can install netbsd on your MIPS Qube, and then install your favorite GPL MP3 jukebox server....doesn't get any cheaper than that.
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Re: Cheap NAS

Unread postby Arabski » Tue Feb 05, 2008 2:55 pm

I tested some of free NAS systems (software) and came up to conclusion, that none of them was suitable for my (home) use. So I decided to use FedoraCore6, and put it on Siemens Scenic 600. It has 3 storage disks, 750, 400 and 120GB, system disk is a 4GB SCSI drive. Intel 440BX mainboard with passively cooled P3/550 on 145W powersupply.

I would not recommend anything lower (regarding chipset), because my Asus 430TX did not pass POST with 60GB drive attached :?

Works good enough for me. NFS - very nice, far better than CIFS, and more "transparent" than FTP.

p.s. XFS filesystems on data disks, of course :D
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Re: Cheap NAS

Unread postby UrbanHero » Wed Feb 06, 2008 1:55 am

I use a Compaq Deskpro Celeron 300 (passive cooling CPU; quieter and more reliable), with a 3Ware RAID card which mirrors 2 160GB disks.
It runs OpenBSD from a 4GB harddisk (although i plan to replace the disk with a CF card once i've build a read-only OpenBSD distro), and has the usual SMB/FTP/NFS shares.

160GB doesn't seem like much, but until recently my biggest disk was 10GB :mrgreen:
Guess i'm not that much of a downloader ;)
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Re: Cheap NAS

Unread postby SAQ » Wed Feb 06, 2008 8:28 am

UrbanHero wrote:160GB doesn't seem like much, but until recently my biggest disk was 10GB :mrgreen:
Guess i'm not that much of a downloader ;)


I wasn't until I got into SGI. Now I have many gigabytes of IRIX overlays and patches...
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Re: Cheap NAS

Unread postby deBug » Wed Feb 06, 2008 2:18 pm

tunkaflux wrote:The laptop use seems interesting... How did you attach extra drives to it or did you just use the laptopdrive?


I just use the internal 40GB 2.5" drive for now.
With all my IRIX dists., SGI freeware, Nekoware, TGCware, patches and assorted IRIX software it is about half full now.
But I'm currently assembling a 2.5" to 3.5" IDE adapter to drive a bigger 3.5 drive.
I have to get 12V to the IDE as the 2.5 interface from the laptop only feeds 5V.
I haven't found a powerful enough 12V feed on the MB so I have to build a 12 regulator connected to the 17-19V power from the power adapter.

I think what I like the best with my NAS is that it is silent (if power down the drive when not used) and don't take a lot of power.
Buying a ready made NAS would also have been fine with me but my solution was free as I got all the the parts from discarded parts from work and I also enjoyed building it!

The FreeNAS is a really nice product, absolutely rock solid.
It's so stable that the only risk with it is forgetting the Web GUI password as after the initial setup there is no need to go in to it anymore.
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Re: Cheap NAS

Unread postby LoWeN » Fri Feb 08, 2008 12:53 am

Hello,

You might consider buying a synology box.
From one disk to 4 currently. 5 is coming.
For my collegues they are the "best" for home nas.

As soon as I have mine I will tell you.

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Re: Cheap NAS

Unread postby UrbanHero » Fri Feb 08, 2008 1:43 am

I wasn't until I got into SGI. Now I have many gigabytes of IRIX overlays and patches...

Yes, that's one of the reasons for building my NAS ;)
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1 Indigo R3k-33 32MB XS24-Z;
1 Indy R5k-180 256MB XZ;
1 Indy R4k-175 64MB XL;
2 Indigo2 R10k-195 512MB MaxImpact;
2 Indigo2 R4k-200 256MB (XL+Extreme);
2 Octane Dual R12K-300 1024MB (MXI+V6).

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Re: Cheap NAS

Unread postby japes » Fri Feb 08, 2008 8:42 pm

My solution was an old dual-socket360 Pentium3 server board and some scavenged P3's and ram running Solaris 10. I bought a bunch of SATA2 drives and an 8-port no raid sata2 card.

ZFS file system. Samba for Windows and Macs. NFS for the linux and unix machines

A bit of a bummer it's only 32-bit, but I haven't had any trouble like some of the zfs-discuss folks talk about (limited address space/zfs consuming address space).

It's been rock solid except when my power supply was failing.
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Re: Cheap NAS

Unread postby LoWeN » Tue Mar 11, 2008 3:52 am

Hello,

I have installed my synology cs-407.
It is working nicely for smb and nfs.
It is not the fastest available but is quite feature rich.
But you really need to be in giga-e to have something fully usable.
Newer firmware in general bring new features. Maybe iscsi is next?

For the french reader you can have a look at http://www.hardware.fr/news/9437/comparatif-5-nas-raid-5.html
In short :
Thecus N4100+ : poor performer.
Thecus N5200BR Pro : Best of them all. 5 disks, integrated giga switch and support iscsi. But "out of price".
Synology CS-407 et Qnap TS 409 pro: Are closed. Qnap is faster. Synology is richer in terms of goodies.
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Re: Cheap NAS

Unread postby Gray Fox » Wed Mar 12, 2008 4:35 pm

I got a Linksys Network storage link (nslu2) for free. Never used it yet. Its a nas without hard drives but has 2 usb ports for hard drives and flash drives.


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