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Re: A Guide on Your Options for non-x86 Computers (2017)

Unread postby theinonen » Thu Apr 27, 2017 8:29 am

Text can be written in any text editor, but for formatting the document and applying styles I would always use actual word processing or DTP application.

Generally is better to use software designed for normal people and forget everything else, as life is too short for masochist editors needing 11 fingers, 13 toes or something.

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Re: A Guide on Your Options for non-x86 Computers (2017)

Unread postby guardian452 » Thu Apr 27, 2017 8:54 am

For what we do I would probably be better off using matlab, but I like excel. Usually, if I feed it too many numbers I can walk away for a couple minutes and come back and it will be done. This is pretty rare and it normally returns a result in a couple seconds. The same cannot be said for google sheets or apple numbers. :shock:

Not sure how to process, calculate, plot, etc, a couple hundred thousand data points with a text editor.

Also, matlab is couple thousand $$$. Office is $7/month.

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Re: A Guide on Your Options for non-x86 Computers (2017)

Unread postby commodorejohn » Thu Apr 27, 2017 9:05 am

Y888099 wrote:What about Excel? PowerPoint? Access? Can you do that? If so, how?

That's the other 5%.

(Though I would bet money that somebody has written an Emacs extension to turn it into a spreadsheet. But the problem with that is you'd have to use Emacs.)
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Unread postby guardian452 » Thu Apr 27, 2017 9:30 am

My "text editor" is a pen and notebook. I prefer unlined sketchbooks.

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Re: A Guide on Your Options for non-x86 Computers (2017)

Unread postby commodorejohn » Thu Apr 27, 2017 9:50 am

And lo, several someones have written Emacs extensions to turn it into a spreadsheet...every time I make a joke about Emacs, I go and look it up afterward and find out that it's actually the case.
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Re: A Guide on Your Options for non-x86 Computers (2017)

Unread postby guardian452 » Thu Apr 27, 2017 10:11 am

commodorejohn wrote:And lo, several someones have written Emacs extensions to turn it into a spreadsheet...every time I make a joke about Emacs, I go and look it up afterward and find out that it's actually the case.

I thought you were being serious, I certainly wasn't going to take that bet.

But there is one called Dismal :lol:

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Re: A Guide on Your Options for non-x86 Computers (2017)

Unread postby robespierre » Thu Apr 27, 2017 10:50 am

guardian452 wrote:Dismal :lol:

Does it have special support for econometrics?
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Re: A Guide on Your Options for non-x86 Computers (2017)

Unread postby guardian452 » Sat Apr 29, 2017 5:31 am

hamei wrote:hey Dipshit ! Did you know that in a year you've hassled more people than the entire group of moderators put together in the entire existence of nekochan ? Don't you have anything to do over there at Mintru ? Meanwhile contributing not one thing to Irix, to nekochan, to the planet as a whole ?
I dunno man, I often times feel the same way. I don't even *use* irix anymore... :(

This is sad because you make a valid point. But who is going to be using a modern "non-x86" computer (ipad, chromebook, etc) without google and/or "The Cloud"??

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Re: A Guide on Your Options for non-x86 Computers (2017)

Unread postby commodorejohn » Sat Apr 29, 2017 7:15 am

guardian452 wrote:But who is going to be using a modern "non-x86" computer (ipad, chromebook, etc) without google and/or "The Cloud"??

I would. That is, of course, assuming that one existed that I'd use (i.e. wasn't a fershlugginer iPad or Chromebook, and had a proper goddamn trackpad with buttons and a decent non-chiclet keyboard.) "The Cloud" can get fucked.
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Re: A Guide on Your Options for non-x86 Computers (2017)

Unread postby ClassicHasClass » Sat Apr 29, 2017 10:52 pm

I am (currently on my 1GHz iMac G4).
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Unread postby Raion-Fox » Sat Apr 29, 2017 11:10 pm

iMac g4? How long does that take to load a JS heavy page?
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Re: A Guide on Your Options for non-x86 Computers (2017)

Unread postby commodorejohn » Sun Apr 30, 2017 12:09 am

The secret is to murder Javascript with the cleansing fire of NoScript. Problem: sol-ved.
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Re: A Guide on Your Options for non-x86 Computers (2017)

Unread postby ClassicHasClass » Sun Apr 30, 2017 4:30 pm

It's not fast, but there's a JIT and it works. Bluhell Firewall (or uBlock Origin) gets rid of most of the crap.
smit happens.

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probably posted from Image bruce, Quad 2.5GHz PowerPC 970MP, 16GB RAM, Mac OS X 10.4.11
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Re: A Guide on Your Options for non-x86 Computers (2017)

Unread postby guardian452 » Sun Apr 30, 2017 8:33 pm

But it's an uphill sell to be calling a g4 'modern'.

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Re: A Guide on Your Options for non-x86 Computers (2017)

Unread postby ClassicHasClass » Mon May 01, 2017 6:14 pm

No doubt, but it's still practical, if you're patient. I suppose you could do something similar with a big POWER system. This assumes we're not talking about ARM Chromebooks.
smit happens.

:Fuel: bigred, 900MHz R16K, 4GB RAM, V12 DCD, 6.5.30
:Indy: indy, 150MHz R4400SC, 256MB RAM, XL24, 6.5.10
:Indigo2IMP: purplehaze, 175MHz R10000, Solid IMPACT
probably posted from Image bruce, Quad 2.5GHz PowerPC 970MP, 16GB RAM, Mac OS X 10.4.11
plus IBM POWER6 p520 * Apple Network Server 500 * RDI PrecisionBook * BeBox * Solbourne S3000 * Commodore 128 * many more...


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