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Picked up a couple PDAs...

Unread postby commodorejohn » Sat Sep 19, 2015 9:53 pm

I picked up two early-2000s PDAs at the thrift store today, mostly because they were a couple dollars each and my curiosity was piqued. One's a Handspring Visor (Deluxe, I think,) which looks to be in really great shape (clean, un-marred screen, no battery leakage) and the other's a Palm m500, which also looks to be in good shape except that A. it uses an internal battery and I have no charger and no idea if it's still good (replacements are cheap, but I'll start with the Visor, which just takes AAA batteries) and B. some dolt at the thrift store decided to put the price sticker right smack in the middle of the screen, so I'll have to get rubbing alcohol or Goo-Gone or something and clean that shit off there. Both have their respective styli, to boot, and the Visor has a little carrying case.

My big question is, now that I've picked these up on a whim, what all can I do with them? Obviously they're probably intended for note-taking/organizer purposes, and I can see the appeal in having something to jot down quick notes on while I'm busy at work, but they're full-fledged computers running something along the lines of a proper OS, which I understand you can run other software on? I have absolutely no familiarity with PalmOS, so I'm curious what kind of stuff you can reasonably do on it aside from the obvious things...anybody with more experience with these doodads want to weigh in?
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Re: Picked up a couple PDAs...

Unread postby ClassicHasClass » Sat Sep 19, 2015 11:37 pm

I use my Palms as quick tools for manipulating things. My Zire 72 can use a Bluetooth access point, so I write simple Plua apps for it to act as a controller over the house network.
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Re: Picked up a couple PDAs...

Unread postby duck » Sun Sep 20, 2015 2:24 am

Back when I still used my palm PDA:s[1], they were my alarm clock (of course) calendars, music player (yes, really, the T3 has a 3.5mm jack and it sounds terrible), note taking and mobile digital communication tool (IRC, web). Not sure what I'd do with one today (probably why my T3 is in a box and not used).

[1] I've had, in succession, a IIIx, m505 and Tungsten T3, the last of which still is in a box with a completely dead battery, fairly dinged up from use
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Re: Picked up a couple PDAs...

Unread postby guardian452 » Sun Sep 20, 2015 6:29 am

I had a sony clie circa 2003 with palm OS and a much nicer screen* than normal Palms at the time; I used it for games, movies, and music (I had a 128MB "memory stick" which was enough for a ~qvga movie. As well as an alarm clock and the normal PDA stuff.


*IIRC it was 320x320 in an era of 160x160 palms.

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Re: Picked up a couple PDAs...

Unread postby GL1zdA » Mon Sep 21, 2015 11:49 pm

I've had a m515 in the late 2000s. You can have a C IDE for programming - the neatest IDE I've ever use: OnBoard Suite. Vexed is a great puzzle game for the Palm. I have also liked Mulg. Today gives you the Windows Mobile's Today screen. The is lot of freeware for PalmOS - you should find something that suits your needs, just be prepared to use the Wayback Machine. Look also at X-Master - hacks were a dirty way to extends PalmOS's capabilities. There is also a program for managing "Desktop accesories" - a poor man version of multitasking capable pop-up software, but I have to check the name. Really, there are lots of nice apps that don't harass you for stupid permissions. The world was so much better before Android.
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Re: Picked up a couple PDAs...

Unread postby duck » Tue Sep 22, 2015 7:15 am

Sony had some really cool variants, I remember a friend of mine picked one up in japan at some point. I can't remember many details about it, but I think it had a swiveling screen and built-in phone.

ISTR the official Palm SDK came with CodeWarrior bundled. Teal software made a lot of nice tools, they even made a WebOS-style launcher replacement including the swipe-up quicklaunch wave thing, animated and all. Palm went and Lawyered them to stop selling it, maybe they were afraid it'd stop people from converting to the new device. It was really slick on my T3 though.
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Re: Picked up a couple PDAs...

Unread postby ClassicHasClass » Tue Sep 22, 2015 10:22 am

I like Plua, personally. It's what I write the vast majority of my Palm apps in.
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Re: Picked up a couple PDAs...

Unread postby commodorejohn » Tue Sep 22, 2015 10:59 am

Well, I've been impressed with it so far - even just as a handheld note-taker, it's awfully handy to have, since I can jot things down at work in my downtime without having to worry about emailing them back to myself at the end of the day. Graffiti's nowhere near as good as an actual keyboard, but it's surprisingly useful, to the point where I'm only even using the onscreen keyboard for a handful of characters I can't remember the strokes for.

Still need to get some other software loaded on it, but I like the idea of having a portable programming environment - I note that in addition to OnBoard Suite, there's Forth and Scheme available, which could be fun. I'll have to get the sync software set up on one of my laptops with an IRDA port...
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Re: Picked up a couple PDAs...

Unread postby duck » Tue Sep 22, 2015 11:09 am

Careful, grafitti completely overwrote my handwriting.

Edit: My T3 still works :-)

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Re: Picked up a couple PDAs...

Unread postby commodorejohn » Tue Sep 22, 2015 11:38 am

'Sokay, I print everything anyway :D
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Re: Picked up a couple PDAs...

Unread postby smj » Wed Sep 23, 2015 1:27 pm

No love for Sharp's Linux-based Zaurus PDAs? I was a big fan, still have several, but the lack of wireless in many models became harshly limiting in the run up to the introduction of the iPhone...
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Re: Picked up a couple PDAs...

Unread postby commodorejohn » Wed Sep 23, 2015 1:51 pm

Well, it's more that I've never used one. In fact, I'd never owned any kind of PDA at all until I got these two from the thrift store...
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Re: Picked up a couple PDAs...

Unread postby ClassicHasClass » Wed Sep 23, 2015 9:52 pm

I have an Agenda VR3. I think those are more interesting than the Zauruses (Zauri?) IMHO. My friend fairly shrieked with delight when he saw the dmesg scrolling up the screen and then X start.
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Re: Picked up a couple PDAs...

Unread postby smj » Fri Sep 25, 2015 11:11 pm

Nice work ivelegacy! I'm not familiar with the NetWalker, but it looks like an interesting sub-compact netbook. Faster Cortex A8 processor than the iPhone 3GS! :D
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Re: Picked up a couple PDAs...

Unread postby miod » Tue Sep 29, 2015 11:24 pm

smj wrote:No love for Sharp's Linux-based Zaurus PDAs? I was a big fan, still have several, but the lack of wireless in many models became harshly limiting in the run up to the introduction of the iPhone...

I've tried using one for a couple of weeks some time ago. These are very nice machines, but their keyboard have too small keys for my fat fingers.
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