skywriter wrote:Hamei find different thread to practice your perverse form of communication will you? I'm not interested in dueling with you anymore.
Best to stay on the porch then, sky.
guardian452 wrote:I had a cisco wifi router; it was absolute garbage. Model wrt54g2 or something like that.
Correction : you had a Linksys
Linux-based piece of shit.
There is the problem with the "let's buy an el-cheapo brand so we can grow the business" philosophy. If your reputation is based on quality, then you try to infer that the low-priced crap is just as good as your good stuff, what happens is the opposite. A turd will remain a turd no matter how it's painted but now the good stuff is smeared with the turd's reputation.
Of course Chambers and three other people made a bundle when the stock got a boost because he was going to "grow the business" and all the Bloomberg tech writers gobbled up his shit like it was ham and cheese sandwiches ... that's what really counts in corporate-land. They teach it at Hahvud, gotta have a business
degree to really understand why this is better for the US !
When Linksys was cheap stuff for people who only needed cheap stuff, that was okay. When they pretend to be butter not margarine, then they become liars and cheats.
Ain't "business decisions" a wonderful thing ?
Hamei mentioned the Cisco 3745 to me. http://www.trygve.com/no_duct_tape.html
The 3745, on the other hand, sounds like you mounted an early model dustbuster on your server rack and kept it running 24/7. Besides being a whole lot quieter to begin with, the 2851 also has fan speed control and it's an option you can activate on the 3620s, but apparently there's no such provision on the 3745
That's a pretty funny site, by the way. Been there in the past, did you notice his Origin 3200 ? The guy is kind of a trip
It does sound like the 3745 is noisier than the 3640. 2800 is also an option, quieter but more money. Not as many slots for network modules tho. The FDDI thing is something of a hurdle.
But ya know, it was only a suggestion. I have been happy as a clam with my Cisco experience. Sure, they aren't perfect but there's lots of good things about real routers. When they say "converged" they mean it - there's lots of advantages for small operations in putting everything into a single box. And dependability ... there's a reason that the first thing an ISP's tech support says is "reboot your router." (With the Cisco I refuse. I always tell them I did but never do. It's not
the Cisco's fault. Ever.) If i look harder I could find the uptime record of a year and a half and even that was only cutoff because I had to move the rack. That ain't no boolsheet, grandma.
There really is a reason that many companies choose to use Cisco. In theory a Linux "solution" could
be as good or better. But in practice it doesn't seem to work out that way.
In addition to this, firmware updates (and this includes security fixes) require an active support contract. Fatal error, as far as I'm concerned.
Well, 6.5.30 requires an active support contract as well ... < cough cough>
I'm not so sure that firmware updates are really a problem with this class of equipment anyway. If the firmware is right in the first place, you don't really need so many fixes, dui bu dui ?
Besides that, the free firmware updates for all
classes of equipment seem to be going the way of the dodo anyhow
So, in my case, either I'm going to go with a decent 'consumer' (integrated wireless blabla) router,
I wonder if there is one ?
... or I'm going to slap together a real, dedicated router.
and be stuck with another half-assed wet dream ... it's not an easy problem to solve. What you want is something commercial-grade but at the size (and price, to some extent) of the consumer stuff. You're a prosumer, but there ain't no prosumer equipment
I don't mind to spend some money on a 'real' solution but then it has to be good. I don't want to simply add another Linux server to the zoo and spend countless hours maintaining things that don't add any value.
Exactly. I have been happy with the 3600 Cisco but it's not for everyone. Just worth looking at seriously, that's all. A 3700 would be better but not very obtainable here. The 2800 is beyond what I am willing to spend, but closer to what you are talking about.
As far as consumer routers and switches, I've had nothing but bad luck here. Well, not exactly bad luck. They did the job they were intended to do for the price they cost. I'll say that the SMC I had lasted the longest and gave the least trouble. But it was built fifteen years ago, times change. I don't know about now. Maybe take a look there ...
p.s. ... feel free to discount what I think on this, I'd be the first to say I am not
an IT Professional. But I inherited the job of keeping five or six small offices with a few people each spread all over China plus one shop with 400 people, twenty-five or thirty computers, and a manufacturing network of twenty machines, etc etc all running. It took Cisco to quell the "I can't go to the Internet ! help ! help ! the world is ending !" screaming.