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Unread postPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 9:42 pm 
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http://www.cdesktopenv.org/

Not ready for real use, but the code is now out there.


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Unread postPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 10:09 pm 
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This is really cool!

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Unread postPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 11:08 pm 
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I hope it will be soon available for Linux distros. As far as I can remember, CDE was an option on some early Red Hat releases.

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Unread postPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 7:41 am 
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I like CDE a lot, but that's mostly from working on commercial Unix so long. Glad to see it finally become an option other places.

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Unread postPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 4:06 pm 
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GL1zdA wrote:
I hope it will be soon available for Linux distros. As far as I can remember, CDE was an option on some early Red Hat releases.

If Arch got it I would give Linux a second thought.

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Unread postPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 6:46 pm 
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I am the documentation lead for the CDE project. It's been a wild few months.

CDE runs on Linux. Here is a list of supported distributions:

https://sourceforge.net/p/cdesktopenv/w ... Platforms/

The code isn't from 1999. It's from 1995 :D

It's pretty stable on my Ubuntu 12.04 box. Somethings don't work but a lot does.


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Unread postPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 7:57 pm 
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zizban wrote:
I am the documentation lead for the CDE project. It's been a wild few months.
Stud! I bet you've been busy! :D

zizban wrote:
The code isn't from 1999. It's from 1995 :D
Or maybe 1993, depending how you want to define things. The project wiki main page mentions 1993 as the start of development and says that the current release "represents the source code state in 1999." Over on the project Q&A page mentions 1995 as when "Release 1.0" came out, and says that the current release is "almost identical to the 2.1.30 release The Open Group made available to their customers in 1999." I know, I know. I have a lot of nerve...you probably wrote those pages! :D

Since you are the documentation stud, do you have a sense of how the version of CDE bundled with IRIX 6.5 matches up to this open source release? For example, is SGI IRIX CDE 5.3 the SGI implementation of CDE 2.1.30, or is it naive even to ask that question? I know that SGI's implementation is derived from TriTeal Corporation's CDE (the same company that made the original CDE implementation for RedHat, but declared bankruptcy in December 1999), but I presume that the TriTeal/SGI release tracked the standard release in some general way.

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It's pretty stable on my Ubuntu 12.04 box. Somethings don't work but a lot does.
I wasn't a big fan of CDE way back when, especially since IRIX was my first Unix, but I would definitely prefer the simplicity and predictability of CDE over the latest Gnome or other gee-whiz linux desktop environment that's out there. I just hope that it doesn't end up getting fubar'ed by overzealous linux interface developers. :D


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Unread postPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 10:40 pm 
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My first thought was: greaat, now I can relive the horror on my Linux installations.

My second thought was: there's probably a thread about this on Nekochan already.

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I think it's great that they've released it, and kudos to zizban for all his hard work!

Uhm, can't actually say I'm all that eager to use it... Every SPARCstation 20 or Ultra {1,2} on my desk got FVWM on it as quickly as possible, back in the day. And I've embraced it once again for use on virtualized machines. But as josehill points out the GNOMEfolk seem to be determined to eliminate themselves from the realm of possible options. And I definitely am grateful to see another option emerging.

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Unread postPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 5:57 am 
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Hi, some answers:

CDE is the Open Group's reference base. There is no vendor specific code in this release.

Looking at screenshots of CDE on Irix, it doesn't look like SGI varied too much from the default code but it's hard to tell for sure.

Motif will be released in a few months. We are trying to get contributor agreements from everyone and it's a long, hard slog.

CDE should compile on any processor.You may have to add some defines to the makefile for some, though. There is a guy working on a PowerPC 64 bit port and he only had to change a couple of lines to get it to compile. It doesn't work yet but it compiles.


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Unread postPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 9:35 am 
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Thanks for the info, zizban. It's appreciated.


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Unread postPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 10:55 am 
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Update: someone just a sent tarball full of patches for FreeBSD in. In theory it will work. Details later.


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Not strictly speaking IRIX/SGI development, but I thought it might be of some interest that CDE was just released open source: http://sourceforge.net/p/cdesktopenv/wiki/Home/

Motif is soon to follow, according to the FAQ.

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I suggest to sign petition on freeing IRIX Interactive Desktop: http://www.change.org/petitions/silicon ... ve-desktop ;) .

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alexott wrote:
I suggest to sign petition on freeing IRIX Interactive Desktop: http://www.change.org/petitions/silicon ... ve-desktop ;) .


Need one to get the OS itself released. :D

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