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Re: Fixed

Unread postby recondas » Fri May 27, 2005 4:18 am

Diego wrote:
please, let me know what kind of SGI system you are currently using. I've tested SlimDesktop on four different configurations of O2 boxes; ranging from R5K/180MHZ-64MB to RM7K/600MHZ-768MB, and each system was reportedly without any kind of problems; but I know that some kind of platforms without hardware texture memory could not handle with proper speed the XPM files that I've bundled with SlimDesktop.

Octane ->SI Graphics<- 225MHZ 512MB RAM. It currently serves as my test mule - when I set it up I cloned the HD <with the fresh OS install> if I screw up something I just rotate the drives and reclone the old one before I do anything else.

In fact I've considered this kind of issues, arranging four different kinds of resolutions for the background files, to not just enable lower res desktop to handle the backgrounds properly, but also to allow the machines without TRAM modules to handle littler images with a surrounded solid colour of your choose.

Hey - I think it looked good- and saved me a sh*tpile of work. I would have installed it on my O2 - but I didn't see any backgrounds to fit the resolution of the sgi 1600 FP <1600x1024>

The chances are, that your "Background Settings" panel is actually loading perfectly the XPM file, only that it takes definitively too much time to set up properly the background preview frame. That looks as a system hang-up, but in fact the system is trying to show properly the image, just that too slowly. If you wait enough, you'll be able to see the image. My O2 600MHZ changes between two high resolution background files on about 12 seconds.But in fact R5K/180MHZ takes a lot more.

That's certainly a possibility - but I tried nuking the process - it would continually respawn itself even if I logged out or even restarted the box - root or user accounts. As I mentioned it even appeared ontop of the login screen.

I've downloaded the tardist, just to test the integrity, a few days ago and was funtional without errors in O2(s) running IRIX 6.5.26/6.5.27; but as I've mentioned, I can't test it in others SGI platforms, so; please, write here a post including: 'hinv' and 'uname -aR'
It's running 6.5.22m - I mentioned most of the hardware above

I'll try to see if ther is some other kind of problem! ;)

I'm not a programmer - so bear with the suggestions from left field - but how about a configure script first time the program is run that lets you pick which bits to activate <with some hints to the {cough} clueless as to suggested minimum hardware?>
Thanks in advance by your feedback! ;)
Cheers!

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Re: Fixed

Unread postby GeneratriX » Fri May 27, 2005 5:58 am

Hi "recondas"; Let's see:

recondas wrote:Octane ->SI Graphics<- 225MHZ 512MB RAM. It currently serves as my test mule - when I set it up I cloned the HD <with the fresh OS install> if I screw up something I just rotate the drives and reclone the old one before I do anything else.


I could not try SlimDesktop on Octane/Octane2 since I have not any of both; but I'll upload to the Neko's FTP a new revision in a couple of days, or maybe sooner. I only can guess what is the origin of the trouble in your Octane, but could work too! ;)

recondas wrote:Hey - I think it looked good- and saved me a sh*tpile of work. I would have installed it on my O2 - but I didn't see any backgrounds to fit the resolution of the sgi 1600 FP <1600x1024>


Sure; I'll add the 1600SW "friendly resolutions" on the new release, sorry, I've missed that! :)

recondas wrote:That's certainly a possibility - but I tried nuking the process - it would continually respawn itself even if I logged out or even restarted the box - root or user accounts. As I mentioned it even appeared ontop of the login screen.


VERY WEIRD!!! Specially because I've not modified the kind of scripts that could make such effect on 4Dwm; add to this the fact that works perfects in four O2 boxes here... :roll:

I'll replace the only module that I suspect could affect negatively your system for a new one with a few added checks.

recondas wrote:It's running 6.5.22m - I mentioned most of the hardware above


Should not be a problem at all.

recondas wrote:I'm not a programmer - so bear with the suggestions from left field - but how about a configure script first time the program is run that lets you pick which bits to activate <with some hints to the {cough} clueless as to suggested minimum hardware?>


SlimDesktop's documentation certainly is not his stronger point; you are right. But I'll improve this with the help of every Nekochaner installing it! Including you! ;) ...Remember that I only have O2 boxes as test beds, so the field of variation here is a little bit narrow. I have not means to test things that are hardly dependant of the platform (even when I think that these weird error does not felt in this category), so, I'm happy with reports as yours that helps a lot to get a polished final software

Feel free to test the newer and fixed release in a few hours. I'll post it here when uploaded. Thanks a lot by your feedbacks & suggestions!

Cheers! ;)

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Bug Fixes

Unread postby GeneratriX » Thu Jun 09, 2005 10:55 am

A new version of SlimDesktop is on the kitchen, and almost ready now, including bug fixes... more news later...

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SlimDesktop V0.06

Unread postby GeneratriX » Fri Jul 29, 2005 4:10 pm

Good Night Folks; We Have A New Thingy...

Generatrix SlimDesktop M00 V0.06 (Beta) - Desktop Customization Module: Global Information
Generatrix SlimDesktop M01 V0.06 (Beta) - Desktop Customization Module: Backgrounds
Generatrix SlimDesktop M02 V0.06 (Beta) - Desktop Customization Module: C Shell Settings
Generatrix SlimDesktop M03 V0.06 (Beta) - Desktop Customization Module: C Shell Login Profile
Generatrix SlimDesktop M04 V0.06 (Beta) - Desktop Customization Module: 4Dwm Application Defaults
Generatrix SlimDesktop M05 V0.06 (Beta) - Desktop Customization Module: MPlayer FileType Icons/Rules
Generatrix SlimDesktop M06 V0.06 (Beta) - Desktop Customization Module: CDRTools Version 2.01
Generatrix SlimDesktop M07 V0.06 (Beta) - Desktop Customization Module: NixieClock Version 1.41
Generatrix SlimDesktop M08 V0.06 (Beta) - Desktop Customization Module: Color Schemes
Generatrix SlimDesktop M09 V0.06 (Beta) - Desktop Customization Module: SGI Session
Generatrix SlimDesktop M10 V0.06 (Beta) - Desktop Customization Module: Toolchest
Generatrix SlimDesktop M11 V0.06 (Beta) - Desktop Customization Module: Video Format Compiler
Generatrix SlimDesktop M12 V0.06 (Beta) - Desktop Customization Module: GCombust Version 0.155
Generatrix SlimDesktop M13 V0.06 (Beta) - Desktop Customization Module: Blender Version 2.37A
Generatrix SlimDesktop M14 V0.06 (Beta) - Desktop Customization Module: QEMU Version 0.6.1
Generatrix SlimDesktop M15 V0.06 (Beta) - Desktop Customization Module: Shell Login Profile


I want to add that this new version is "100%-Nekoware-Friendly-TM" 8)
...And if you have completely installed the current Nekoware collection, you'll find on SlimDesktop a really useful companion. More info soon, along with details on the contributions, and the tardist file.

Cheers!

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Unread postby friedbits » Sat Jul 30, 2005 8:55 am

Hello Diego,

I just have a few minor things you might consider changing, but before complaining, let me tell you that I enjoy your xdefaults, I found quite a few nice things you did there I didn't know before!

However, you should really change the permissions of the config files, like /.cshrc and such. Right now, its 777 and so if someone were to install slimdesktop on a multiuser machine, everyone could insert stuff into roots csh scripts and therefore gain root priviliges.

It would also be nice if you could include the other vfc files for MGRAS machines into slimdesktop. If you want to make it really nifty, you could also use swpkg to install those files based on which machine it's being installed on (see the attrbutes tab on swpkg).

I was also wondering whether you would consider including xli, so that the background images could be included as .jpgs, which would decrease the size of the tardist considerably.

Let me know what you think about my suggestions and keep up the great work!

Greetings
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Unread postby GeneratriX » Sat Jul 30, 2005 9:09 am

friedbits wrote:Hello Diego,

I just have a few minor things you might consider changing, but before complaining, let me tell you that I enjoy your xdefaults, I found quite a few nice things you did there I didn't know before!


Hello Tobias; no problem at all; I'm open to suggestions! ;)

friedbits wrote:However, you should really change the permissions of the config files, like /.cshrc and such. Right now, its 777 and so if someone were to install slimdesktop on a multiuser machine, everyone could insert stuff into roots csh scripts and therefore gain root priviliges.


Yes; This was a major bug on the previous release, it is fixed now.

friedbits wrote:It would also be nice if you could include the other vfc files for MGRAS machines into slimdesktop. If you want to make it really nifty, you could also use swpkg to install those files based on which machine it's being installed on (see the attrbutes tab on swpkg).


No problem; but could pass me any link to those vfc files? The problem is: I don't have any Octane box, only O2(s) here. And yes for sure, I know how to build these platform dependant tardist.

friedbits wrote:I was also wondering whether you would consider including xli, so that the background images could be included as .jpgs, which would decrease the size of the tardist considerably.

Let me know what you think about my suggestions and keep up the great work!

Greetings
Tobias


...mmmhhh; I could check these one, but on my experience the 4Dwm desktop behaves slower when using JPEG backgounds; let me know your experience anyway...

Thanks in advance Tobias; your feedback is very welcomed! ;)
Cheers!

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Unread postby friedbits » Sat Jul 30, 2005 9:27 am

Yes; This was a major bug on the previous release, it is fixed now.


That's great :D

No problem; but could pass me any link to those vfc files? The problem is: I don't have any Octane box, only O2(s) here. And yes for sure, I know how to build these platform dependant tardist.


They are available from Nicoya's homepage, it was on neko's blog some time ago. If you decide to include them, I would gladly test it for you, I have MGRAS graphics options on Indigo2 and Octane.

...mmmhhh; I could check these one, but on my experience the 4Dwm desktop behaves slower when using JPEG backgounds; let me know your experience anyway...


Hm, I never noticed any difference in speed once the graphics are loaded, I was asking because loading an xpm pixmap to the background on the O2 I have at work takes like almost 2 minutes (granted, it's only a 270MHz r12k with 256MB ram, so nothing fancy like your 600MHz machines, but well, it takes an awful long time).

Greetings
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Unread postby GeneratriX » Sat Jul 30, 2005 11:42 am

friedbits wrote:They are available from Nicoya's homepage, it was on neko's blog some time ago. If you decide to include them, I would gladly test it for you, I have MGRAS graphics options on Indigo2 and Octane.


Sure; right now I'll arrange a new modules including thoses. Then I'll drop an email to Nicoya (Tony Nicoya Mantler, right?), to ask him by authorization to include them.

friedbits wrote:Hm, I never noticed any difference in speed once the graphics are loaded, I was asking because loading an xpm pixmap to the background on the O2 I have at work takes like almost 2 minutes (granted, it's only a 270MHz r12k with 256MB ram, so nothing fancy like your 600MHz machines, but well, it takes an awful long time).

Greetings
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Okay, I'll see what can I do. I'll give it a try to the xli option, converting the images to JPEG. And by the way, I could use the opportunity to include more background images, so, if anyone feels brave and has some nice designs, this is the chance to add them! ;)

Well folks, now you know thanks to *who* the new release there'll be delayed! :P :lol: ....Just joking; I'll be glad to include the changes, adding new functionallities to this package.
More news to follow soon...

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CRM & MGRAS

Unread postby GeneratriX » Mon Aug 01, 2005 3:42 pm

friedbits wrote:It would also be nice if you could include the other vfc files for MGRAS machines into slimdesktop. If you want to make it really nifty, you could also use swpkg to install those files based on which machine it's being installed on (see the attrbutes tab on swpkg).


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Unread postby friedbits » Mon Aug 01, 2005 3:49 pm

There's gotta be a fairy somewhere, making my wishes come true ;-)

Great job, Diego!

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A Confirmation?

Unread postby GeneratriX » Mon Aug 01, 2005 3:59 pm

friedbits wrote:There's gotta be a fairy somewhere, making my wishes come true ;-)

Great job, Diego!


:lol: You're welcome, Tobias! Good suggestions are always interesting to do! ;)
By the way, I have not means to try the other two setmon file sets that I'm including for 1RSS and 2RSS graphic systems; since as I've mentioned before, I have not Indigo2/Octane MGRAS based boxes here, and when you arrange a platform dependant tardist "SoftwareManager" will not show the content for those non friendly packages for your platform; so, I'll make the best to post the whole SlimDesktop V0.06 this night, to give you the chance to try it as the first Beta-Tester! :)

Anyway, I think all is ready to use there, but I need an official confirmation!
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Unread postby friedbits » Mon Aug 01, 2005 6:30 pm

Sure, will be glad to test, once it's done. Just spend half the night tracking a silly thing with openntpd though :(

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Unread postby GeneratriX » Mon Aug 01, 2005 6:52 pm

friedbits wrote:Sure, will be glad to test, once it's done. Just spend half the night tracking a silly thing with openntpd though :(


Yup!; I've seen the topic on the Nekoware thread, but seems that you have the case solved by now! ;) Good work!
I'll post the link once finished SlimDesktop V0.06, and I'll try to upload it also to incoming. right now I'm fighting with a few tardists of another kind, but I'll have it ready soon.

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Background Images...

Unread postby GeneratriX » Thu Aug 04, 2005 8:27 pm

friedbits wrote:I was also wondering whether you would consider including xli, so that the background images could be included as .jpgs, which would decrease the size of the tardist considerably.


Well, it is done!
Now everyone can choose between:


JPG Background Images With XLI Support (Nekoware Dependencies)

Image


XPM Background Images With Native 4Dwm Support (No Dependencies)

Image


Sorry, did you say something? 8)
Thanks by your suggestion again!
Cheers! ;)

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Unread postby nekonoko » Thu Aug 04, 2005 10:01 pm

IRIX 6.5.22+ can handle .jpg background images natively (and PNG, BMP, etc.) ... what IRIX version are you targeting here, Diego? Since Nekoware targets 6.5.22+ anyway XLI is unnecessary.

If you're not aware of the method for using native .jpg backgrounds, see my post in this thread:

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