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Re: irssi 0.8.13 n32

Unread postby Sacrifist » Thu Apr 08, 2010 7:43 pm

Out of curiosity what's the hppa build built on? Any chance on a 2.0 version?

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Re: irssi 0.8.13 n32

Unread postby uridium » Thu Apr 08, 2010 8:37 pm

G'day Simon,

The HP-UX flavour I've rolled is actually messier than the IRIX one in so much as there's no nekoware there so I maintain all the dep software myself. So, to answer your question, yes, I could do a 64bit version because I do have a Allegro/c3750 lurking, but haven't. It's built on a little Staccato/A180C ( http://www.openpa.net/systems/hp_a180.html ). ldd for irssi looks like:

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% ldd /opt/irssi-0.8.15/bin/irssi;uname -a;model
        /usr/lib/libc.2 => /usr/lib/libc.2
        /usr/lib/libdld.2 => /usr/lib/libdld.2
        /usr/lib/libc.2 => /usr/lib/libc.2
        /usr/lib/libpthread.1 => /usr/lib/libpthread.1
        /usr/lib/libxcurses.1 => /usr/lib/libxcurses.1
        /usr/contrib/lib/libintl.sl.8 => /opt/gettext-0.17/lib/libintl.sl.8
        /opt/hp-gcc-4.4.3/lib/libgcc_s.4 => /opt/hp-gcc-4.4.3/lib/libgcc_s.4
        /usr/lib/libc.2 => /usr/lib/libc.2
        /opt/glib-2.24.0/lib/libglib-2.0.sl.2400 => /opt/glib-2.24.0/lib/libglib-2.0.sl.2400
        /opt/hp-gcc-4.4.3/lib/libgcc_s.4 => /opt/hp-gcc-4.4.3/lib/libgcc_s.4
        /usr/lib/libc.2 => /usr/lib/libc.2
        /usr/contrib/lib/libintl.sl.8 => /opt/gettext-0.17/lib/libintl.sl.8
        /opt/glib-2.24.0/lib/libgmodule-2.0.sl.2400 =>  /opt/glib-2.24.0/lib/libgmodule-2.0.sl.2400
        /opt/hp-gcc-4.4.3/lib/libgcc_s.4 => /opt/hp-gcc-4.4.3/lib/libgcc_s.4
        /usr/lib/libc.2 => /usr/lib/libc.2
        /usr/contrib/lib/libintl.sl.8 => /opt/gettext-0.17/lib/libintl.sl.8
        /opt/glib-2.24.0/lib/libglib-2.0.sl.2400 => /opt/glib-2.24.0/lib/libglib-2.0.sl.2400
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Usually the A180C is on because it eats around 1/3rd the juice of the c3750, is quieter and doesn't turn my room into a Pripyat Summer. Also it's more than enough horse power to run screen, mircnet, compiler, etc. I'm not currently using any package managment (depot, deb, rpm, rah rah), other than simple/unique version numbers for software in /opt. I used to roll .depots and have an /opt/skunkware and mirror it when I was at uni built and run off an old G40 (inferno) but gave up supporting it and the skunkware on 10.20 and 10.30 (yes there was a 10.30) years ago. Maybe worth while reviving it for 11i v1 for hobbyists given that HP is making rumblings about moth-balling it soonish.

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Re: irssi 0.8.13 n32

Unread postby Sacrifist » Fri Apr 09, 2010 8:17 am

I would, if my c3750 had 11i v1. I bought a media set of 11i v2 and installing it without realising that it's unsupported on HP 9000 workstations (no driver for fx10pro for starters).

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Re: irssi 0.8.13 n32

Unread postby uridium » Sun Apr 11, 2010 3:17 pm

Yep. v2 should be for itanic anyway. The supplimentary v2 update for 11i I've seen go tits up a few times.

Yes, HP dropped support for *ALL* 700 series machines.. which means "All Workstations" .. so no more graphics.. ever! That was around v2 time so your FX10pro won't work out of the box. You can get them running on 11iv3 with a lot of hack-fu from the v1 modules + libs, but seriously, unless your good with a hex editor and PA-Risc Asm, give it up.

FX10pro's actually quite a nice card. I have two of them. They'll Quake3 without breaking a sweat.

11iv3 they dropped support for anything 700 completely.. so you can't even install 11iv3 on a 700 class machine (and just get disabled fb). You have to find an 800 that can install it then brain-swap the disk over and change the boot order. I did it off an old rp4400 at my old work. You also need to replace some of the scsi drivers or it won't claim the controller and boot (which is an odd one because the older rp3410's are still supported and have the same scsi controller chip.. topic for another time).

Suffice to say, that if you want an "out of the box" PHUX experience on an Allegro, you want 11iv1. Feel free to send Carly Fiorina hate mail. I don't think Bob Hurd cares much either :~(

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Re: irssi 0.8.13 n32

Unread postby whiter » Sun Apr 25, 2010 1:54 am

Is the irssi 0.8.15 build and packaged according to nekoware standards, or should I update it? As package maintainer I just compiled it last week since there is a security hole in all older versions.
Shall I describe it to you? Or do you want me to get you a box?

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Re: irssi 0.8.13 n32

Unread postby uridium » Sun Apr 25, 2010 4:51 am

G'day Whiter.

No clue about "Nekoware standards" .. hopefully as with many collections of "standards" there is "Many" to choose from. I would say no. As stated earlier, I merely get the latest nekoware -- irssi. Then build irssi to sit in /opt/irssi-0.8.15 .. thus not effecting anything "The real" (you??) irssi maintainer might do. This is 0.8.15. I have an earlier 0.8.15-rc1 if you wish.

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Re: irssi 0.8.13 n32

Unread postby hamei » Wed Apr 28, 2010 8:41 am

uridium wrote:No clue about "Nekoware standards" .. hopefully as with many collections of "standards" there is "Many" to choose from.

You should really ask joerg, he's the eagle-eye on this sort of thing but since no one else has spoken and it would be great to have more people doing nekoware :

1) Irix 6.5.22 or better (there were changes that can make earlier versions problematic)

2) Unless it's an emergency, MIPSPro. That's due to incompatability with shared libraries compiled under gcc

3) Please include release notes describing the compiling environment and any other oddities

4) Follow the standard swmgr conventions (version numbers and so on)

5) home directory is /usr/nekoware

6) Not part of the 'standard' but I for one appreciate this : use lower case on the package name. Otherwise the packages are spread all over swmgr and you can't tell what the heck you have installed without a bunch of searching.

There's a more thorough description on the wiki but that seems like the essentials to me. More nekoware ! please ! (and thank you)

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Re: irssi 0.8.13 n32

Unread postby recondas » Wed Apr 28, 2010 8:47 am

There a nekowiki available too: http://www.nekochan.net/wiki/ ... g_Software
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Re: irssi 0.8.13 n32

Unread postby uridium » Wed Apr 28, 2010 4:25 pm

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Nifty. That's actually quite easy to follow, so thank you. I'll make a note of this for future crimes.

I do wonder though about the R10000 CFLAG option. I'll have to go and look that up. Only thing I have to build on over here is an 180Mhz R5k moosehead.
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Re: irssi 0.8.13 n32

Unread postby nekonoko » Wed Apr 28, 2010 11:07 pm

uridium wrote:I do wonder though about the R10000 CFLAG option. I'll have to go and look that up. Only thing I have to build on over here is an 180Mhz R5k moosehead.

I wouldn't worry about that CFLAG - I never used it on anything I built for Nekoware. As you noted, it's too restricting IMHO.
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