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Re: For download: IRIX netboot appliance

Unread postby Stoo » Sat Nov 03, 2012 5:12 am

Just a thought - I've a spare Raspberry Pi hanging around here - How possible do you guys think it would be to turn it into a physical DINA box?
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Re: For download: IRIX netboot appliance

Unread postby mia » Sat Nov 03, 2012 5:51 am

Why bother, I use an O2 to net-install.
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Re: For download: IRIX netboot appliance

Unread postby kcchris » Sat Nov 03, 2012 6:47 am

Stoo wrote:Just a thought - I've a spare Raspberry Pi hanging around here - How possible do you guys think it would be to turn it into a physical DINA box?


Short answer is not possible. The DINA image is for i386 computers and the RPi uses an embedded ARM chip. To rebuild DINA's functionality using the same scripts and methods as deBug, you would need to get NetBSD running as the foundation. RPi support in NetBSD 6 is experimental and there is no support for the network interface, rendering it useless as a netboot server.

I have never used the Raspbian OS that they provide. It might be possible to rebuild the functionality of DINA using that as the base, but you would be building your own netboot server, not moving DINA to it.
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Re: For download: IRIX netboot appliance

Unread postby Stoo » Sat Nov 03, 2012 7:11 am

mia wrote:Why bother, I use an O2 to net-install.


Because I don't have an O2, my indigo2 isn't working, and the DINA image doesn't appear to work properly with Parallels, VMware Fusion, or VirtualBox on my Mac.

Any more silly questions?
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Re: For download: IRIX netboot appliance

Unread postby mia » Sat Nov 03, 2012 9:23 am

Well, if you have only one SGI then the gain of using a network-based installer is marginal.
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Re: For download: IRIX netboot appliance

Unread postby kcchris » Sat Nov 03, 2012 10:12 am

mia wrote:Well, if you have only one SGI then the gain of using a network-based installer is marginal.


Not if you don't have a SCSI CD-ROM or tape drive to install from. Then it's pretty much a requirement.
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Re: For download: IRIX netboot appliance

Unread postby dclough » Sat Nov 03, 2012 10:25 am

kcchris wrote:I have never used the Raspbian OS that they provide. It might be possible to rebuild the functionality of DINA using that as the base, but you would be building your own netboot server, not moving DINA to it.

You're spot on with this.

The Raspberry Pi won't run the DINA image, but all you'd need to do to simulate a DINA setup is configure DHCP/BOOTP, TFTP and NFS on the Pi. You'll get the same basic functionality, just not in the neatly-bundled DINA package.

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Re: For download: IRIX netboot appliance

Unread postby Stoo » Sat Nov 03, 2012 10:58 am

dclough wrote:
kcchris wrote:I have never used the Raspbian OS that they provide. It might be possible to rebuild the functionality of DINA using that as the base, but you would be building your own netboot server, not moving DINA to it.

You're spot on with this.

The Raspberry Pi won't run the DINA image, but all you'd need to do to simulate a DINA setup is configure DHCP/BOOTP, TFTP and NFS on the Pi. You'll get the same basic functionality, just not in the neatly-bundled DINA package.


That's more along the lines I was thinking of..
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Re: For download: IRIX netboot appliance

Unread postby Stoo » Sat Nov 03, 2012 12:09 pm

Digging further into my DINA issues, it looks as though the scripts didn't configure networking correctly when using vmware fusion on my Mac.

Looking at the ifconfig output there are two adapters present, local loopback, and wm0 - but the DINA script assumes the interface name is ifconfig_pcn0 in the script, which doesn't actually exist.

I've edited the /etc/rc.conf entry to match the interfaces available, and I no longer get the errors at startup when it tries to bring up the network interface, but I still can't communicate with DINA from anything else on the network, so I think I must have missed something somewhere..
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Re: For download: IRIX netboot appliance

Unread postby dclough » Sat Nov 03, 2012 12:22 pm

Stoo wrote:Digging further into my DINA issues, it looks as though the scripts don't configure networking correctly when using vmware fusion on my Mac.

Looking at the ifconfig there are two adapters present, local loopback, and wm0 - but the DINA script assumes the interface name is ifconfig_pcn0 in the script, which doesn't actually exist.

I've edited the /etc/rc.conf entry to match the interfaces available, and I no longer get the errors at startup when it tries to bring up the network interface, but I still can't communicate with DINA from anything else on the network, so I think I must have missed something somewhere..


Can you paste your ifconfig/route -a outputs for us?

Sorry for the potentially stupid question, but did you double-check the virtual interface settings in Fusion? Bridged/NAT/Host-only and the like.

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Re: For download: IRIX netboot appliance

Unread postby Stoo » Sat Nov 03, 2012 12:40 pm

dclough wrote:Can you paste your ifconfig/route -a outputs for us?

Sorry for the potentially stupid question, but did you double-check the virtual interface settings in Fusion? Bridged/NAT/Host-only and the like.


Yup, it's set as NAT in Fusion, which works for everything else I've ever used, output as follows:

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Re: For download: IRIX netboot appliance

Unread postby dclough » Sat Nov 03, 2012 12:47 pm

In this case NAT is the problem. NAT puts it on its own network inside Fusion, and just takes your mac's connection and routes the packets out that way. Physical machines on your physical network won't know how to reach DINA.

Try setting it to Bridged.

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Re: For download: IRIX netboot appliance

Unread postby Stoo » Sat Nov 03, 2012 12:51 pm

Yup, that's got it..

One to add to the Wiki methinks.. (changing the interface name & bridged mode)
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Re: For download: IRIX netboot appliance

Unread postby dclough » Sun Nov 04, 2012 12:15 am

Stoo wrote:Yup, that's got it..

One to add to the Wiki methinks.. (changing the interface name & bridged mode)

Indeed, there are quite a few pages that could use clarification there. Glad to hear you got it fixed, good luck with the install!

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Re: For download: IRIX netboot appliance

Unread postby recondas » Sun Nov 04, 2012 6:20 am

kcchris wrote:I hope someone finds my info useful.... Here's what I did
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