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Re: DJV Imaging 0.7.0 Beta

Unread postby markwend » Sun Dec 30, 2007 7:24 pm

dj wrote:
The idea behind that was to allow adjustment of the in/out points after they are set, sort of for fine-tuning the marks. But you're right, it's probably better to keep all the controls consistent; do you think clicking and dragging the playback slider with the mouse should also obey the in/out points?


I would think the only mode that would allow you to go past the mark points would be the playback slider, since it is visually showing you that there may be frames beyond those points. Otherwise, normal playback and jog playback should obey the mark points. At least that's my two centavos worth!

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Re: DJV Imaging 0.7.0 Beta

Unread postby dj » Wed Jan 09, 2008 9:15 pm

Hi everyone,

Just wanted to mention that I've uploaded the official 0.8.0 Beta version of DJV imaging. Downloads are available at:

http://sourceforge.net/project/showfile ... _id=118244

Packages are available for a number of different operating systems and architectures, including of course IRIX.

Lost of small changes and bug-fixes for this version; here are the highlights from the previous 0.7.3 version:

* Updated software dependencies (OpenEXR 1.6.1, libquicktime 1.0.1).
* Initial support for the Softimage .PIC image file format.
* Extended support for the Wavefront RLA image file format to 16 and 32-bit image data.
* FFmpeg support for Linux.
* Compatibility changes for the OpenGL rendering pipeline.
* Expanded preferences dialog.

Feedback is always welcome,

Thanks, Darby


PS. @markwend - This version includes the changes for the in/out points as you suggested, and a new preferences option for opening all the command-line arguments in a single window (it's under the File tab).

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Re: DJV Imaging 0.7.0 Beta

Unread postby markwend » Thu Jan 10, 2008 9:48 pm

dj wrote:
Lost of small changes and bug-fixes for this version; here are the highlights from the previous 0.7.3 version:
* FFmpeg support for Linux.


Just curious - what does FFmpeg support mean? (I know what ffmpeg is and use it, but just don't know what support for it you are offering in djv_view).

dj wrote:PS. @markwend - This version includes the changes for the in/out points as you suggested, and a new preferences option for opening all the command-line arguments in a single window (it's under the File tab).


Thanks! All good!

I also like all the extended preferences. Very nice work.

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Re: DJV Imaging 0.7.0 Beta

Unread postby dj » Fri Jan 11, 2008 10:55 am

markwend wrote:Just curious - what does FFmpeg support mean? (I know what ffmpeg is and use it, but just don't know what support for it you are offering in djv_view).


Just that there is support for a wider range of codecs when working with QuickTime in Linux.

The codecs/formats that are available from libquicktime are:

raw, rawalpha, v308, v408, v410, yuv2, yuv4, yv12, 2vuy, v210

And FFmpeg adds these:

ffmpeg_mpg4, ffmpeg_msmpeg4v3, ffmpeg_h263, ffmpeg_h263p, ffmpeg_mjpg, ffmpeg_dv_ntsc, ffmpeg_dv_pal, ffmpeg_dv50_pal, ffmpeg_dv50_ntsc, png, pngalpha, rtjpeg, jpeg, mjpa, ffmpeg_dv_avi, ffmpeg_ffvhuff

(Note, I have not yet done any serious testing with the different codecs.)

markwend wrote:I also like all the extended preferences. Very nice work.


Thanks! There's definitely getting to be a lot of options though; someone else mentioned it was getting a bit confusing, especially with the nested tabs. They suggested I switch from tabs to a tree-view type widget to help organize it better. What do you think?

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Re: DJV Imaging 0.7.0 Beta

Unread postby markwend » Fri Jan 11, 2008 11:04 am

dj wrote:Thanks! There's definitely getting to be a lot of options though; someone else mentioned it was getting a bit confusing, especially with the nested tabs. They suggested I switch from tabs to a tree-view type widget to help organize it better. What do you think?


I actually don't mind the tabs, as long as the names and contents are well organized. One thing that can help the clarity a bit without changing the structure is to switch the tab text to icons+text (kind of like in firefox's preferences). This can help folks better understand the preference categories, as long as the icon graphics are well designed.

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Re: DJV Imaging 0.7.0 Beta

Unread postby dj » Fri Jan 11, 2008 12:03 pm

markwend wrote:I actually don't mind the tabs, as long as the names and contents are well organized.


What do you think of the current organization? Do the different options feel like they are in the right tabs? Is it easy to remember where they are located?

markwend wrote:One thing that can help the clarity a bit without changing the structure is to switch the tab text to icons+text (kind of like in firefox's preferences). This can help folks better understand the preference categories, as long as the icon graphics are well designed.


That's a good idea, and I think fairly easy to code... I could reuse some of the other icons for the "File", "Window", "View", and "Playback" groups. Any thoughts on what would make a good icon for the others, like "Image", "Image I/O", "Shortcuts", or "General"?

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Re: DJV Imaging 0.7.0 Beta

Unread postby hamei » Fri Jan 11, 2008 8:38 pm

dj wrote:That's a good idea, and I think fairly easy to code... I could reuse some of the other icons for the "File", "Window", "View", and "Playback" groups. Any thoughts on what would make a good icon for the others, like "Image", "Image I/O", "Shortcuts", or "General"?

Not to be a party-pooper but most everyone agrees that chinese text is an arcane and peculiar institution which hinders development and literacy a great deal.

So why do people think icons are so wonderful ? How about just using chinese characters ? then people could learn something useful along with the task of memorizing a bunch of icons ?

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Re: DJV Imaging 0.7.0 Beta

Unread postby dj » Fri Jan 11, 2008 9:12 pm

hamei wrote:So why do people think icons are so wonderful ? How about just using chinese characters ? then people could learn something useful along with the task of memorizing a bunch of icons ?


What are the Chinese characters for "Image I/O"? :)

I hear what you're saying, but how many Chinese characters are there vs. the number of icons in a typical app? Plus icons are important because they take a minimal amount of screen real-estate; the alternative is abbreviations, which are far worse.

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Re: DJV Imaging 0.7.0 Beta

Unread postby hamei » Fri Jan 11, 2008 10:07 pm

dj wrote:What are the Chinese characters for "Image I/O"? :)

Wait until Monday, I'll ask the Assistant :-)
I hear what you're saying, but how many Chinese characters are there vs. the number of icons in a typical app? Plus icons are important because they take a minimal amount of screen real-estate; the alternative is abbreviations, which are far worse.

How many icons are there ? Far too many. What does the nun with the arrow through her head mean ? Why do people need the icons-with-text option ? Because the icons are useless. They look cute but that is all they bring to the table. If you want to go that way, I'm voting for simplified Chinese.

(Neko will probably want Japanese but we've got the market size - 1.3 billion customers ! dj, you could be rich beyond all your dreams ! :P )

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Re: DJV Imaging 0.7.0 Beta

Unread postby dj » Fri Jan 11, 2008 10:26 pm

hamei wrote:What does the nun with the arrow through her head mean ?


Finally I have an icon for the "preferences dialog". :)

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Re: DJV Imaging 0.7.0 Beta

Unread postby hamei » Fri Jan 11, 2008 10:29 pm

dj wrote:
hamei wrote:What does the nun with the arrow through her head mean ?

Finally I have an icon for the "preferences dialog". :)

I double-dare you :P :P

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Re: DJV Imaging 0.7.0 Beta

Unread postby dj » Sun Jan 27, 2008 2:28 pm

Hi Everyone,

Just wanted to let you know I've released a new beta version of DJV, 0.8.1. Here's the list of changes:

General:

* Updated copyright notices for 2008.
* Command line option reorganization.
* Preferences dialog reorganization.

djv_view:

* Split window controls into toolbar and playbar controls.
* Image information and HUD changed to reflect actual file name.
* Fix for HUD options.
* Fix for cache redraw bug.

Miscellaneous:

* String conversion improvements.
* Fix for color matrix in fixed function OpenGL pipeline.
* Fix for Apple QuickTime path handling in Microsoft Windows.
* Softimage flipbook wrapper for djv_view, contributed by Alan Jones.

Homepage: http://djv.sourceforge.net/
Downloads: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfile ... _id=118244

Also, it is with some regret that I must mention this will probably be the last release for awhile; I'm starting some contract work which will prevent me from working on this project for the duration. I'd like to thank everyone who helped test out the software and offered suggestions for how to improve it, and also special thanks to Pete for hosting this great web-site.


Darby


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