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Unread postby artherd » Mon May 08, 2006 8:32 pm

I almost shit myself laughing. If you know nothing about the F-117, I suppose it would seem so diabolical and believeable.

How exactly would an FA-18 shoot down something with the RCS of a bumblebee?

I know a bit about the 117, and the story there was (mostly) beliveable there, we really can't track it if the transponder is off and bombbay doors are closed.
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Unread postby R-ten-K » Mon May 08, 2006 8:54 pm

artherd wrote:
I almost shit myself laughing. If you know nothing about the F-117, I suppose it would seem so diabolical and believeable.

How exactly would an FA-18 shoot down something with the RCS of a bumblebee?

I know a bit about the 117, and the story there was (mostly) beliveable there, we really can't track it if the transponder is off and bombbay doors are closed.


Forget about the F18 shooting down the F117, how on earth would the 117 shoot down Air Force 1? It has not air-to-air anything... not even a cannon. It is a bomber, so maybe they were planning on bombing the crap out of AF-1?

In any case, it is TeeVee... it is bad for your brain.... :-)

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Unread postby VenomousPinecone » Tue May 09, 2006 9:20 am

artherd wrote:How exactly would an FA-18 shoot down something with the RCS of a bumblebee?

I know a bit about the 117, and the story there was (mostly) beliveable there, we really can't track it if the transponder is off and bombbay doors are closed.


VenomousPinecone wrote:If you know nothing about the F-117, I suppose it would seem so diabolical and believeable.


My point still stands. :P

R-ten-K wrote:In any case, it is TeeVee... it is bad for your brain.... :)


Exactly. :lol:

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Unread postby RageX » Tue May 09, 2006 3:31 pm

artherd wrote:How exactly would an FA-18 shoot down something with the RCS of a bumblebee?

You don't need radar in a dog fight. I would assume several fighter escorts for AF1 would do the trick, especiall since the F117 isn't really meant for air to air combat, weapons-wise or manuvers-wise.

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Unread postby VenomousPinecone » Tue May 09, 2006 4:59 pm

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They stuff one of these bad boys into every F/A-18, it doesnt need radar. 8)

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Unread postby UrbanHero » Tue Jun 06, 2006 11:47 pm

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Unread postby Frapazoid » Wed Jun 07, 2006 1:01 am

Actually, I'm pretty sure the F-117 can carry a few sidewinders but it hasn't been done in practice I don't think.. Not much but you could shoot down a large unmaneuverable jet that doesn't see you coming. The "Stealth Fighter" is probably capable of some very limited air to air action. The B-2 is pure bomber though.

Nevertheless, if it's daytime you don't need radar to see a slow black triangle against a bright blue (or grey?) backdrop. The fighter escourts could handle it if they saw it visually before it fired a missile, and if they know it's coming all they have to do is make a point of looking around a lot and not flying at night.

Plus I think they show up quite nicely on radar when they get wet. So it's really a night thing, and it's really a not-in-the-rain thing.

PLUS plus I'm pretty sure they sent up two AF1s when they do their thing, so the dude in the F-117 of course has a 50% chance of looking like a total jackass.
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Unread postby Geoman » Wed Jun 07, 2006 3:37 am

VenomousPinecone: Ah, you posted an image of one of German's Airforce 'F-4 F Phantom II'-Jet. It's an old warhorse of the early 60ies and will be replaced by the Eurofigter, soon. The 20mm cannon is still a good argument :wink:

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Unread postby unixmuseum » Wed Jun 07, 2006 7:33 am

Geoman wrote:It's an old warhorse of the early 60ies and will be replaced by the Eurofigter, soon.
So the Eurofighter can actually fly properly? :-D

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Unread postby hamei » Wed Jun 07, 2006 5:39 pm

unixmuseum wrote:
Geoman wrote:It's an old warhorse of the early 60ies and will be replaced by the Eurofigter, soon.
So the Eurofighter can actually fly properly? :-D

No, but politics, you know .... people still buy Airbuses with the plastic tails that fall off, too.

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Unread postby unixmuseum » Wed Jun 07, 2006 6:20 pm

hamei wrote:No, but politics, you know .... people still buy Airbuses with the plastic tails that fall off, too.
Are these the ones assembled in China? :-D

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Unread postby Frapazoid » Wed Jun 07, 2006 6:37 pm

I was on an Airbus jet recently and it was the bumpiest ride I have EVER flown in a commercial airline. For 8 hours.

What's this about tails falling off? What happens if the tail falls off?

I have another flight on one soonish :?
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Unread postby unixmuseum » Wed Jun 07, 2006 7:06 pm

Frapazoid wrote:I was on an Airbus jet recently and it was the bumpiest ride I have EVER flown in a commercial airline. For 8 hours.

What's this about tails falling off? What happens if the tail falls off?

I have another flight on one soonish :?
Reaaly? Must have been an A330, this shit is usually pretty bumpy... Not that any of the Boeings are any better...

There's also a thing called turbulence that seems to be pretty aircraft manufacturer independent :-)

If the tail falls off, the plane falls off... The tail falling off is either a bad structural design (hard to believe that would happen anymore), poor assembly process (like the tail section of the Boeings delivered to Japan Airlines missing 400 bolts!!!), or the pilot "pushing the enveloppe", i.e. erring outside of the charted flight enveloppe the plane's designed for (like the Tu-144 in the 70s or the first A320 in the 80s).

The Eurofighter however is different: the aerodynamics is fucked up, poorly designed, doesn't meet specs & requirements... Rafale & Grippen are/were so much ahead of the EF it's not even funny...

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Unread postby Frapazoid » Wed Jun 07, 2006 7:26 pm

Turbulence was happening the whole 5000 mile stretch. I've flown many dozens of times and this was my first time on an Airbus and it was baaad both ways, bumpiest flight I've ever been on by a wide margin. I think a 330 but maybe a 380. I know I saw a 380 somewhere. I think I saw it on my newer ticket.

What's the Rafale like? The baddest enemy in Aerofighters Assault 64 is a Rafale.

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Unread postby R-ten-K » Wed Jun 07, 2006 8:39 pm

Given that the A380 has yet to be put in service, I pretty much doubt that was the airplane you were in. Unfortunatedly, Airbus nor any other European company (regardless of what American aerospace concerns would have us believe) are not able to control de weather, ergo.. the turbulence in the flight is more a factor of the weather/flight ceiling associated with your flight than the airplane itself. My bumpies ride ever was on a Jumbo accross the Pacific... that somehow does not give me enough data points to make the association of Jumbo=badly engineered piece of crap=bumpy rides :-)

Rafale has poorer performance than the EF2000, the Grippen is a great plane for what Sweden needed it: short take off, and not that much of a range of operations. It hardly applies to what the Germans/Italians/British/Spaniards needed. And for the price of an F22 you can buy a bunch of Eurofighters. So all in all, politics aside, not a bad bird. Same shit the americans said about the tornado, and how much better the F111 was. We all know how that turned out....


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