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Re: How frequently you use your SGI (in 2017)?

Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 11:14 am
by Krokodil
My Octane II is still running. It serves as an offline computer, a cottage of sorts. When one wants to get away from the internet, FreeBSD and Windows.I might get on it every couple of weeks and it is always happily waiting to answer the call. Took it out earlier in the year and blew it out with an air compressor, to remove the dust from the air intakes. It has an exalted position on my desk.

Octane I - is laid up. EMXI graphics puts out a ton of heat. Last chartered to Raion Fox, a few months ago. :)

O2 - is laid up. No need for installation services at this time.

Indigo2 - Still waiting for that missing piece. Time and budget don't allow for me to chase that down right now.

Re: How frequently you use your SGI (in 2017)?

Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 11:40 am
by jirka
Geoman wrote:Today I'd need at least a Tezro I think.


Even the Tezro will not help you with WWW because the Firefox 3 is "too old" for many pages :-(

Re: How frequently you use your SGI (in 2017)?

Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 11:47 am
by Krokodil
jirka wrote:
Geoman wrote:Today I'd need at least a Tezro I think.


Even the Tezro will not help you with WWW because the Firefox 3 is "too old" for many pages :-(


That's why I dream of a completely new and lightweight web browser. But probably it will never happen.

Re: How frequently you use your SGI (in 2017)?

Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 12:38 pm
by miod
I usually always have at least one SGI system powered on, but not one of the few still running IRIX.

Re: How frequently you use your SGI (in 2017)?

Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 12:45 pm
by ClassicHasClass
That's why I dream of a completely new and lightweight web browser.


We're still dreaming of that in Power Mac land. For everything else, though, there's TenFourFox^TM.

Re: How frequently you use your SGI (in 2017)?

Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 3:19 pm
by vishnu
Dillo development appears to have either slowed to a crawl or lurched to a halt, no new version in over two years:

https://www.dillo.org/download/

Re: How frequently you use your SGI (in 2017)?

Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2017 10:57 am
by duck
I use my Octane every day, although it's mostly thunderbird and a terminal to the servers in the closet.

Re: How frequently you use your SGI (in 2017)?

Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2017 11:16 am
by jirka
vishnu wrote:Dillo development appears to have either slowed to a crawl or lurched to a halt, no new version in over two years:


Is the Dillo better than the Links http://links.twibright.com/index.php? I use the Links (in GUI mode) much more than the Forefox.The Dillo ports never worked for me for some reasons so I don't know how good it is.

Re: How frequently you use your SGI (in 2017)?

Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2017 1:15 pm
by vishnu
jirka wrote:
vishnu wrote:Dillo development appears to have either slowed to a crawl or lurched to a halt, no new version in over two years:


Is the Dillo better than the Links http://links.twibright.com/index.php? I use the Links (in GUI mode) much more than the Forefox.The Dillo ports never worked for me for some reasons so I don't know how good it is.

Both Links and Dillo are pretty much useless on the modern web due to lack of Javascript (ECMAScript) support, and development of both appears to have stopped. Tough to keep developing a product when your competitors are giant corporations and you don't have any users to speak of... :roll:

Re: How frequently you use your SGI (in 2017)?

Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2017 4:34 pm
by diegel
vishnu wrote:Both Links and Dillo are pretty much useless on the modern web due to lack of Javascript (ECMAScript) support
I still use ff3 and dillo for web browsing and it works for 80% of the web for me. For the other 20% I use a modern firefox via remote X11 session.
and development of both appears to have stopped.
At least dillo development is still in progress. They had some problems, since one of the developers died last year, but there is still some progress and we will see a new release possibly this year.

Re: How frequently you use your SGI (in 2017)?

Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2017 9:54 pm
by praetor242
My O2 gets used daily for IRC and ssh to SDF. I'm very near to getting the latest Pidgin to compile, and when that happens, I'll use it for my chat needs more. Trying to learn Softimage...but I get distracted :p

My daily driver is an iMac since browsing the web on my O2 isn't possible. I don't know what I'll do with my second O2 when he gets finished. Sad. The first computer that I ever bought for myself was an Indigo. It was my daily driver for many years. I've always have just felt more comfy with Irix for that reason I guess.

Re: How frequently you use your SGI (in 2017)?

Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2017 10:01 pm
by ClassicHasClass
since one of the developers died last year


Yikes.

Re: How frequently you use your SGI (in 2017)?

Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2017 8:02 am
by jirka
vishnu wrote:Both Links and Dillo are pretty much useless on the modern web due to lack of Javascript (ECMAScript) support,

Yes, it's a problem. There is also no CSS support in the Links. But the Firefox 3 is often not much better (try to open the flickr.com in the Firefox 3).

vishnu wrote: and development of both appears to have stopped.


I don't thinks so. The Links's development was fast until it's main authors finished their university studies (~2008). After that the development was slowed down. But it's still alive.

I still use the Links for the forums.nekochan.net and for many other sites as it's much more stable than the Netscape 4.x and it performs fairly even on an R4k Indy (and ii is fast on the O2).

Re: How frequently you use your SGI (in 2017)?

Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2017 8:04 am
by jirka
diegel wrote: For the other 20% I use a modern firefox via remote X11 session.


I have tried to do that but the remote Firefox was exteremely slow (Ubuntu x86 -> SGI O2). What version/setup do you use?

Re: How frequently you use your SGI (in 2017)?

Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2017 9:06 am
by necron2600
Regarding running apps like firefox/chrome remotely to IRIX:

WINDOWS:
SeamlessRDP to just deliver a remote windows app that does not come with the clutter of a windows desktop-in-a-window... more natural looking with the IRIX desktop. Need to place seamlessrdp on the windows system somewhere: (note: windows server only.. such as windows server 2003)

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/usr/nekoware/bin/rdesktop -u usernamehere -p paswordhere -r clipboard:PRIMARYCLIPBOARD -r disk:'Home'=$HOME -r sound:local -a 16 -z -A -s 'c:\\seamlessrdp\\seamlessrdpshell C:\\Program Files\\Google\\Chrome\\Application\\chrome.exe' remotehostname


LINUX:
Or.. launch via SSH/X11 from a linux node using less-cpu-intensive settings; (note: firefox needs the xkb.so in LD_PRELOAD as IRIX's X server does not handle everything (X badvalue error). I forget if Chrome has this problem with IRIX too)

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ssh  -XC4c arcfour,blowfish-cbc -l usernamehere linuxhostnamehere "export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=\$PWD ; export LD_PRELOAD=xkb.so ; chromium-browser"


You can also launch windows apps from a Linux server running wine over ssh/X11 too.

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ssh -XC4c arcfour,blowfish-cbc -l username remotehostname "wine .wine/drive_c/Program\ Files/Mozilla\ Firefox/firefox.exe"