Acquired a Fuel.

Open discussion on or around SGI; software/hardware related posts should go in the appropriate subforum.
Forum rules
Any posts concerning pirated software or offering to buy/sell/trade commercial software are subject to removal.
User avatar
Vanne
Posts: 42
Joined: Tue Jun 09, 2009 3:07 am
Location: Dxb

Acquired a Fuel.

Unread postby Vanne » Fri Jan 06, 2017 9:00 am

So there was a Fuel listed on Ebay yesterday, kinda around the price mark i could grab it at, so i did.

Pretty basic spec, but has

MIPS R14000 600Mhz cpu
4GB ram
SGI VPro V10 display adapter
SCSI 15K rpm 146GB SCA 80pin hdd + 36GB 68pin 10K hdd
Yamaha SCSI cd writer
SGI RAD digital audio controller
SGI/3Com 3C996 gigabit network adapter

I also yesterday grabbed the SW1600 with an LVDS to DVI signal convertor card. Very much hoping that the Fuel can run the SW1600?

The main reason for me grabbing the Fuel is that since moving to Dubai, my Octane has been in pieces and i don't currently have a monitor that can run sync on green. So i guess this is an easy way for me to get a Irix system up and running.

Guess i should sell my Octane parts after the Fuel arrives.

Any idea how this fuel will compare performance wise with my Octane? Dual 600's V8 1.5gb

And its been a while since booting any flavour of Irix, what are the go to apps these days? any good browsers?
Boxen: Indy, Indigo2 Impact, O2, Octane, and building......

User avatar
Raion-Fox
Donor
Donor
Posts: 1333
Joined: Thu Jan 30, 2014 5:01 pm
Location: near King George, Virginia
Contact:

Re: Acquired a Fuel.

Unread postby Raion-Fox » Fri Jan 06, 2017 9:25 am

The fuel will have faster graphics performance but less texture memory. The SCSI bus is faster, which improves I/O performance. CPU-wise your performance will be about the same single thread, somewhat worse multi-threaded.
:O3x02L: R16000 700MHz 8GB RAM kanna
:Octane: R12000 300MHz SI 896MB RAM yuuka
:Octane2: R12000A 400MHz V6 2.5GB RAM
:Indy: (Acclaim) R4600 133MHz XL Graphics 32MB RAM
:Indy: (Challenge S) R4600 133MHz (MIPS III Build Server)
Thinkpad W530 i7 3940XM 3GHz, 32GB, K1000M Windows 8.1 Embedded rin
Thinkpad R40 Pentium M 1.5GHz 2GB RAM kasha

User avatar
Trippynet
Donor
Donor
Posts: 785
Joined: Thu Aug 15, 2013 6:22 am
Location: Aberdeen, Scotland, UK

Re: Acquired a Fuel.

Unread postby Trippynet » Fri Jan 06, 2017 9:45 am

Nice little system, very similar to mine! How much did you pay (if you don't mind me asking)?

Browser wise, the best one available is Firefox 3.0.19. Make sure you grab either the beta one, or one from diegel's share as the later compiled versions are faster and less buggy than the one in Nekoware "current". Don't expect miracles from it though, old SGIs aren't great at web browsing.
Systems in use:
:Indigo2IMP: - Nitrogen: R10000 195MHz CPU, 384MB RAM, SolidIMPACT Graphics, 36GB 15k HDD & 300GB 10k HDD, 100Mb/s NIC, New/quiet fans, IRIX 6.5.22
:Fuel: - Lithium: R14000 600MHz CPU, 4GB RAM, V10 Graphics, 72GB 15k HDD & 300GB 10k HDD, 1Gb/s NIC, New/quiet fans, IRIX 6.5.30
Other system in storage: :O2: R5000 200MHz, 224MB RAM, 72GB 15k HDD, PSU fan mod, IRIX 6.5.30

User avatar
Raion-Fox
Donor
Donor
Posts: 1333
Joined: Thu Jan 30, 2014 5:01 pm
Location: near King George, Virginia
Contact:

Re: Acquired a Fuel.

Unread postby Raion-Fox » Fri Jan 06, 2017 9:49 am

Oh yeah, on browsers:

Firefox 3.0.19 is the most featureful
Dillo is faster
:O3x02L: R16000 700MHz 8GB RAM kanna
:Octane: R12000 300MHz SI 896MB RAM yuuka
:Octane2: R12000A 400MHz V6 2.5GB RAM
:Indy: (Acclaim) R4600 133MHz XL Graphics 32MB RAM
:Indy: (Challenge S) R4600 133MHz (MIPS III Build Server)
Thinkpad W530 i7 3940XM 3GHz, 32GB, K1000M Windows 8.1 Embedded rin
Thinkpad R40 Pentium M 1.5GHz 2GB RAM kasha

User avatar
recondas
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 5441
Joined: Sun Jun 06, 2004 5:55 pm
Location: NC - USA

Re: Acquired a Fuel.

Unread postby recondas » Sat Jan 07, 2017 7:13 am

Congratulations on your newly acquired Fuel.
Vanne wrote:I also yesterday grabbed the SW1600 with an LVDS to DVI signal convertor card. Very much hoping that the Fuel can run the SW1600?
Depending on your particular IRIX release, you likely find 1600x1024_60.vfo amongst the IRIX supplied graphics timing files (look in /usr/gfx/ucode/ODSY/vof). Querying that file with vfoinfo in quick mode reveals it was created specifically for using an SW1600 with Odyssey graphics (like the V10 in your new Fuel).

Code: Select all

% vfoinfo -q /usr/gfx/ucode/ODSY/vof/1600x1024_60.vfo
/usr/gfx/ucode/ODSY/vof/1600x1024_60.vfo        1600x1024_60 ("1600 x 1024 @ 60Hz for Odyssey with SGI1600SW ")

If your IRIX install doesn't include SGI's 1600x1024_60.vfo, there's also a homebrew alternative attached to this post.

I'm not sure how IRIX will will respond to the DVI signal converter on your 1600SW, but others have had issues when connecting Odyssey graphics through SGI's Multi Link Adapter (MLA). If you have issues with your 1600SW it might be worthwhile to read 3dchris' comments in that post. Alternatively Jack Luminous's solution was to pull the pins in the DVI cable that supply DDC info (again, this involves the MLA rather than your signal converter).
***********************************************************************
Welcome to ARMLand - 0/0x0d00
running...(sherwood-root 0607201829)
* InfiniteReality/Reality Software, IRIX 6.5 Release *
***********************************************************************

Jack Luminous
Donor
Donor
Posts: 194
Joined: Mon Sep 26, 2011 12:59 am
Location: PARIS

Re: Acquired a Fuel.

Unread postby Jack Luminous » Sat Jan 07, 2017 9:47 am

BTW, I bought a Dr Bott "SGI saver" some times ago and it works better than the MLA. No need for pin removal anymore as the thing supplies the right DDC info directly. Also, it displays the boot log better.
:Octane2: :Octane: :Octane: :O2:

User avatar
Vanne
Posts: 42
Joined: Tue Jun 09, 2009 3:07 am
Location: Dxb

Re: Acquired a Fuel.

Unread postby Vanne » Sat Jan 07, 2017 7:14 pm

Wow, that all sounds rather positive. Thanks guys.
I payed 500 for the fuel, and organising my own shipping. Speaking if which, are there any must do's and don'ts in regards to shipping this box? My octane suffered a bend connector when I shipped that 6 years ago..

Any info and help will be very much appreciated..

Actually very surprised that Firefox is being maintained for Irix. With FireWire on the fuel, can I use an old school iSight cam from an old FireWire Mac?

And can u guys confirm that the keyboard and mouse are still PS2 compatible?

Thanks for the info on the sw1600, Soo hoping that that is going to work.

V.
Boxen: Indy, Indigo2 Impact, O2, Octane, and building......

User avatar
recondas
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 5441
Joined: Sun Jun 06, 2004 5:55 pm
Location: NC - USA

Re: Acquired a Fuel.

Unread postby recondas » Sat Jan 07, 2017 8:11 pm

Vanne wrote:With FireWire on the fuel, can I use an old school iSight cam from an old FireWire Mac?
Sure, see this tread for details. If you intend to add Firewire, F/W memory card readers are another possibility.

Vanne wrote:And can u guys confirm that the keyboard and mouse are still PS2 compatible?
They are; and USB kb&m are another.

If you haven't already seen it, you might find the IP35 (Fuel, Tezro, O300, O350) Hardware Aggregator another useful resource.
***********************************************************************
Welcome to ARMLand - 0/0x0d00
running...(sherwood-root 0607201829)
* InfiniteReality/Reality Software, IRIX 6.5 Release *
***********************************************************************

User avatar
Vanne
Posts: 42
Joined: Tue Jun 09, 2009 3:07 am
Location: Dxb

Re: Acquired a Fuel.

Unread postby Vanne » Mon Jan 09, 2017 6:42 pm

Thanks, just heard today she has been prepped and packed, ready for shipping. 25kgs.. bloody hell thats heavy.. includes irix library. Yay.. can't wait..
Boxen: Indy, Indigo2 Impact, O2, Octane, and building......

User avatar
Vanne
Posts: 42
Joined: Tue Jun 09, 2009 3:07 am
Location: Dxb

Re: Acquired a Fuel.

Unread postby Vanne » Sun Jan 22, 2017 5:14 am

Soo.. all pieces arrived in one piece.. Fuel from Hungary, SW1600 from USA.

Pics..

IMG_20170122_170513.jpg


And

IMG_20170122_170955.jpg
Boxen: Indy, Indigo2 Impact, O2, Octane, and building......

User avatar
Vanne
Posts: 42
Joined: Tue Jun 09, 2009 3:07 am
Location: Dxb

Re: Acquired a Fuel.

Unread postby Vanne » Sun Jan 22, 2017 5:15 am

Now to connect the whole thing together and fingers crossed it boots...
Boxen: Indy, Indigo2 Impact, O2, Octane, and building......


Return to “SGI: Discussion”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Ahrefs [Bot] and 3 guests