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High times

Unread postby tikka_masala » Tue Aug 30, 2016 5:06 pm

I want whatever they're smoking.

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Re: High times

Unread postby Krokodil » Tue Aug 30, 2016 6:10 pm

That reminds me of this. An Octane 2 that is more like an Octane 1 for ~$5000 USD. Been up there months now.

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Re: High times

Unread postby Dodoid » Tue Aug 30, 2016 10:05 pm

Krokodil wrote:That reminds me of this. An Octane 2 that is more like an Octane 1 for ~$5000 USD. Been up there months now.

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Do those idiots seriously think they can sell it for more by saying it's for medical imaging? Do they seriously think somebody who owns an MRI machine or whatever is going to search for "octane 2" on ebay, see a bunch selling for normal prices, and say "nah, you know what, imma get the expensive machine that's exactly the same thing because the ad says it's for medical imaging".
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Re: High times

Unread postby Trippynet » Wed Aug 31, 2016 2:16 am

Don't be too surprised. I believe Ian has had companies out there wary of buying from him because they considered some of the items too cheap - and were happier to buy from him once he hiked a few of his prices. It's one of the reasons his higher-end kit is quite expensive - companies that need it will still pay that price, and are wary of really cheap replacements.

I guess it's a matter of perception. If you have a $2m MRI scanner and the Indigo 2 that powers it is dead, you might be wary of a $200 replacement machine. But one being sold for $1,000 with a small warranty looks as if it might be a more respectable and solid buy, and the hospital just wants to be sure that they can get their scanner working reliably again.

Yes it's daft, and such systems would be idiotic for a hobbyist to buy, but there we go.
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Re: High times

Unread postby uunix » Wed Aug 31, 2016 2:45 am

We have had this conversation many times, and Ian does indeed justify prices quite well, although saying that, I'm still waiting for him to justify this dirty old mouse mat http://forums.nekochan.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=16730668 that was up for $49 (inc P&P).

The good thing that came out that thread was washing your mat in the washing machine, I washed my second mouse mat the weekend and it did indeed come up spotless. :D
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Re: High times

Unread postby computron » Wed Aug 31, 2016 6:10 am

Do those idiots seriously think they can sell it for more by saying it's for medical imaging?


don't talk to fast please.

per ex , an Indigo2 equiped with BIT3 VME adapter Board cost a lot.

This card is always referenced at GE spare part at the cost of a brand new sport car........ (about 30000 € if i correctly remember)

So medical stuff on the medical market are overpriced !! because if you don"t have the needed configuration , your CT Scan is good for the trash.

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Re: High times

Unread postby Krokodil » Wed Aug 31, 2016 10:35 pm

computron wrote:
Do those idiots seriously think they can sell it for more by saying it's for medical imaging?


don't talk to fast please.

per ex , an Indigo2 equiped with BIT3 VME adapter Board cost a lot.

This card is always referenced at GE spare part at the cost of a brand new sport car........ (about 30000 € if i correctly remember)

So medical stuff on the medical market are overpriced !! because if you don"t have the needed configuration , your CT Scan is good for the trash.

cheers

Eve


Is that what the white connector in the lower left slot is involved with?
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Re: High times

Unread postby jan-jaap » Thu Sep 01, 2016 3:11 am

Krokodil wrote:Is that what the white connector in the lower left slot is involved with?

I doubt it. 'hinv' says this system has two SE graphics boards (one with texture option). I can see two unused XIO slots, so that white thing is plugged into the bottom SE card. It's probably a 13W3-VGA converter, or maybe something plugged into the DE-9 port used for the stereo glasses (an RJ45 converter maybe?)

Otherwise this looks mostly like a CADduo Octane configuration: dual graphics boards and (using the IOC3) you can attach two sets of keyboards/mice. Share one expensive system between two workplaces, so to say. Except iirc. a CADduo system used to ship with a dual CPU, and this system has a single CPU.

This particular configuration of the Octane is probably certified to run some specialist niche software package for the MRI system. A different configuration might work, but you'd be liable in case it fails in some way. Employees loose job, hospital faces litigation and lost reputation. And if you think this Octane is expensive you don't want to know what certification costs.
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Re: High times

Unread postby Krokodil » Thu Sep 01, 2016 12:09 pm

jan-jaap wrote:
Krokodil wrote:Is that what the white connector in the lower left slot is involved with?

I doubt it. 'hinv' says this system has two SE graphics boards (one with texture option). I can see two unused XIO slots, so that white thing is plugged into the bottom SE card. It's probably a 13W3-VGA converter, or maybe something plugged into the DE-9 port used for the stereo glasses (an RJ45 converter maybe?)

Otherwise this looks mostly like a CADduo Octane configuration: dual graphics boards and (using the IOC3) you can attach two sets of keyboards/mice. Share one expensive system between two workplaces, so to say. Except iirc. a CADduo system used to ship with a dual CPU, and this system has a single CPU.

This particular configuration of the Octane is probably certified to run some specialist niche software package for the MRI system. A different configuration might work, but you'd be liable in case it fails in some way. Employees loose job, hospital faces litigation and lost reputation. And if you think this Octane is expensive you don't want to know what certification costs.


Amazing that they are still using this stuff probably 15 years after it came out. Long live IRIX.
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Re: High times

Unread postby xiri » Fri Sep 02, 2016 12:31 am

jan-jaap wrote:
I doubt it. 'hinv' says this system has two SE graphics boards (one with texture option). I can see two unused XIO slots, so that white thing is plugged into the bottom SE card. It's probably a 13W3-VGA converter, or maybe something plugged into the DE-9 port used for the stereo glasses (an RJ45 converter maybe?)



It appears Jan-Jaap is on the right track, found another auction for a medical Octane and one of the photos shows that the system is using
exactly the same 13W3-cables.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/GE-CT-Scanner-H ... 1874275643
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Re: High times

Unread postby computron » Fri Sep 02, 2016 3:41 am

General Electric CT/I 8 and 16 slices are still in use in poor country and in some private hospital, in greece, russia, irak etc....

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Re: High times

Unread postby tikka_masala » Mon Sep 05, 2016 3:30 pm

Looks like the $700 Indy was sold. Buyer has a fat wallet or is just stupid. Either way, Mashek gets a nice bump in his PayPal account and somebody got a slow ass computer that looks pretty.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Silicon-Graphic ... 6016.l4276

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Re: High times

Unread postby josehill » Mon Sep 05, 2016 9:19 pm

tikka_masala wrote:Looks like the $700 Indy was sold. Buyer has a fat wallet or is just stupid. Either way, Mashek gets a nice bump in his PayPal account and somebody got a slow ass computer that looks pretty.

Most likely, the buyer bought the "slow ass computer" from a respected commercial seller -- with a warranty -- in order to keep in service an instrument that might cost tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars to replace. Seems pretty smart, actually.


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