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Re: Email from SGI Support

Unread postby dexter1 » Mon Dec 07, 2015 2:58 am

Whoa, that does seem like a restructuring/slimming-down of the techpubs site.
How should we do this? It is no use for dozens of people to hammer the site, since we don't know for sure if the new page will host the old stuff.

I have a copy anno 2005 with IRIX 5.3/6.2/6.3/6.4/6.5. That is about 1 GB. Jan-Jaap, how big is the current techpubs IRIX stuff?
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Re: Email from SGI Support

Unread postby jan-jaap » Mon Dec 07, 2015 3:50 am

dexter1 wrote:Jan-Jaap, how big is the current techpubs IRIX stuff?

I have:

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204M    manuals_0530
366M    manuals_0620
411M    manuals_0630
466M    manuals_0640
1.3G    manuals_0650
3.1G    manuals_hdwr
1.6G    manuals_linux
276M    manuals_nt
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7.7GB


If manuals are available as PDF and .tar.gz, I have both. Some manuals show up under more than one category (and are hard linked on my server) so total disk space is a fraction less.

Maybe bitsavers can play a role here? I guess I could handle the data volume but I have some doubts about making some 3800+ PDFs with ominous copyright statements available on my FTP server. They have more experience with that.

NB: newest additions, last half year or so:

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-rw-r--r-- 3 janjaap users  1891834 Nov 20 20:42 ./manuals_linux/5000/007-5618-010/pdf/007-5618-010.pdf
-rw-r--r-- 3 janjaap users  1171535 Nov 20 20:25 ./manuals_linux/4000/007-4003-033/pdf/007-4003-033.pdf
-rw-r--r-- 3 janjaap users  1567317 Nov 20 20:13 ./manuals_linux/5000/007-5619-010/pdf/007-5619-010.pdf
-rw-r--r-- 3 janjaap users  1181614 Nov 20 20:07 ./manuals_linux/5000/007-5617-012/pdf/007-5617-012.pdf
-rw-r--r-- 3 janjaap users   288792 Nov 20 19:44 ./manuals_linux/4000/007-4273-007/pdf/007-4273-007.pdf
-rw-r--r-- 3 janjaap users  3984536 Nov 20 19:42 ./manuals_linux/5000/007-5484-016/pdf/007-5484-016.pdf
-rw-r--r-- 2 janjaap users  2133609 Nov  4 19:16 ./manuals_linux/5000/007-5948-007/pdf/007-5948-007.pdf
-rw-r--r-- 2 janjaap users   577096 Nov  4 19:09 ./manuals_linux/6000/007-6361-003/pdf/007-6361-003.pdf
-rw-r--r-- 2 janjaap users   406210 Nov  4 19:03 ./manuals_linux/3000/007-3773-027/pdf/007-3773-027.pdf
-rw-r--r-- 2 janjaap users  1677215 Nov  4 18:53 ./manuals_linux/6000/007-6359-006/pdf/007-6359-006.pdf
-rw-r--r-- 2 janjaap users   345678 Nov  4 18:51 ./manuals_linux/5000/007-5646-009/pdf/007-5646-009.pdf
-rw-r--r-- 2 janjaap users  1068819 Nov  4 18:22 ./manuals_linux/6000/007-6358-006/pdf/007-6358-006.pdf
-rw-r--r-- 2 janjaap users   474850 Nov  4 18:21 ./manuals_linux/4000/007-4746-023/pdf/007-4746-023.pdf
-rw-r--r-- 2 janjaap users   288586 Sep 30 17:49 ./manuals_linux/6000/007-6424-001/pdf/007-6424-001.pdf
-rw-r--r-- 2 janjaap users  1803220 Sep  2 18:23 ./manuals_linux/6000/007-6359-005/pdf/007-6359-005.pdf
-rw-r--r-- 2 janjaap users  1046062 Sep  2 17:52 ./manuals_linux/6000/007-6358-005/pdf/007-6358-005.pdf
-rw-r--r-- 3 janjaap users  1888947 Jul 29 19:28 ./manuals_linux/5000/007-5618-009/pdf/007-5618-009.pdf
-rw-r--r-- 2 janjaap users  1799287 Jul 29 19:03 ./manuals_linux/6000/007-6359-004/pdf/007-6359-004.pdf
-rw-r--r-- 3 janjaap users  1568135 Jul 29 18:59 ./manuals_linux/5000/007-5619-009/pdf/007-5619-009.pdf
-rw-r--r-- 3 janjaap users  1139268 Jul 29 18:54 ./manuals_linux/5000/007-5617-011/pdf/007-5617-011.pdf
-rw-r--r-- 2 janjaap users  1046614 Jul 29 18:30 ./manuals_linux/6000/007-6358-004/pdf/007-6358-004.pdf
-rw-r--r-- 3 janjaap users  3914787 Jul 29 18:30 ./manuals_linux/5000/007-5484-015/pdf/007-5484-015.pdf
-rw-r--r-- 3 janjaap users   185147 Jul 29 18:28 ./manuals_linux/6000/007-6413-001/pdf/007-6413-001.pdf
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Re: Email from SGI Support

Unread postby dexter1 » Mon Dec 07, 2015 7:28 am

Hm, i went ahead and did the techpubs download today. All categories, minus the windows/nt section. I did all the download using your old script with some minor modifications (added *.tgz) and addition of the linux stuff. So my total is:

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> du -sk techpubs.sgi.com/
2324068   techpubs.sgi.com/

That's quite a bit less than what i expected from your tally. Any chance that the duplicate files on your server can account for this? Or did you do a -m in wget?

EDIT: i am missing IRIX 5.3 , 6.2 and 6.3 in my download. That explains atleast partially the difference...

NOTE: i am going to redo it with added FAQ and relnotes. The manpages as you say are redundant since they are included in the OS distribution media anyway.
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Re: Email from SGI Support

Unread postby foetz » Sun Dec 20, 2015 1:54 am

i checked the new pages and couldn't find any remains of the irix stuff. anyone who wants to mirror something, it's now or never

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Re: Email from SGI Support

Unread postby kokoboi » Sun Dec 27, 2015 12:31 am

I'm making a complete mirror of techpubs website, so far I downloaded 22GB
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Re: Email from SGI Support

Unread postby jan-jaap » Sun Dec 27, 2015 1:45 am

kokoboi wrote:I'm making a complete mirror of techpubs website, so far I downloaded 22GB

Did you simply point 'wget' at it and are you downloading endless amounts of cgi generated html?
Best I can tell there's about 6.1GB worth of unique PDFs and .tar.gz files on Techpubs (some files are listed in multiple sections).

NB: latest and only addition since late November was this one:

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007-6410-002    SGI Foundation Software (SFS) User Guide

on December 22nd. In the category 'Linux'.
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Re: Email from SGI Support

Unread postby kokoboi » Sun Dec 27, 2015 6:25 am

jan-jaap wrote:
kokoboi wrote:I'm making a complete mirror of techpubs website, so far I downloaded 22GB

Did you simply point 'wget' at it and are you downloading endless amounts of cgi generated html?
Best I can tell there's about 6.1GB worth of unique PDFs and .tar.gz files on Techpubs (some files are listed in multiple sections).

First I've used your bash script which has downloaded 1230 uniq pdfs and 750 uniq tgz files. Now I'm downloading(more than 2days already) the whole website with wget, so far I got 2280 uniq pdfs, size of 4gb and the uniq .tgz files are 1132, size 670mb.

There are still around 100MB of missing pdfs and 168 .tgz files from go.sh vs wget mirroring. Even if combine them I would reach ~ 5GB.
But the download is still going...
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Re: Email from SGI Support

Unread postby jan-jaap » Sun Dec 27, 2015 7:38 am

I've got 2553 unique pdf files and 1339 tgz files.
My scripts marked 12 pdfs and 10 tgz files as orphaned, which means I have a local copy but they are no longer on TechPubs.
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Re: Email from SGI Support

Unread postby vishnu » Sun Dec 27, 2015 9:06 am

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Re: Email from SGI Support

Unread postby opcode » Fri Jan 29, 2016 9:13 am

So sad. I have several HPC clusters and I have never heard anyone bring up the letters SGI in any meeting in the last 10 years. I had a dream a couple of months ago where I was installing Onyx XL racks in the data center and was so excited. I didn't want to go to work when I woke up and realized it was just a dream. There just isn't anything exciting about a rack full of Dells....(or Linux). I couldn't imagine how much I would love my job if I had a DC full of Silicon Graphics hardware and was able to use techpubs for support.

Back on topic, I got that same email and thought, "I will never need to log into that site again anyway, I already have 6.5.22".
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Re: Email from SGI Support

Unread postby foetz » Tue Feb 23, 2016 6:36 pm

foetz wrote:i checked the new pages and couldn't find any remains of the irix stuff.

it happened. they pulled the plug.
can anyone still find some irix docs?

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Re: Email from SGI Support

Unread postby josehill » Tue Feb 23, 2016 7:09 pm

foetz wrote:it happened. they pulled the plug.
can anyone still find some irix docs?

For the moment, I'm still able to access specific books and man pages if I have a direct link to them (for example, by searching for a specific product with the site:techpubs.sgi.com option in google), but they all have a banner warning that:

"The new home for SGI documentation is the SGI Customer Portal, https://support1-sgi.custhelp.com/. This site will be redirected to the new location later this month."

..but yeah, if you go to one of the old techpubs top-level browse/search pages, they all redirect to the "TechPubs Library Transition" page.

The clock is ticking. :(

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Re: Email from SGI Support

Unread postby rosmaniac » Tue Mar 01, 2016 11:58 am

Thanks to everyone who has mirrored things.
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Oh no, techpubs are gone (almost)

Unread postby Pontus » Thu Mar 17, 2016 1:26 pm

It seems that http://techpubs.sgi.com is no more, or at least are moving to a new platform. If I type that URL in, I get redirected to: https://support1-sgi.custhelp.com/ with no obvious sign of the legacy manuals.

Luckily archive seems to have a rather complete mirror: https://web.archive.org/web/20160207095657/http://techpubs.sgi.com/library/tpl/cgi-bin/init.cgi

Are there any other mirrors?
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Re: Oh no, techpubs are gone (almost)

Unread postby robespierre » Thu Mar 17, 2016 3:24 pm

Several users have mirrored the manuals: viewtopic.php?f=6&t=16730047&p=7388031

Now that SGI has taken them offline, it may be time to talk about hosting them.
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