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Making an "SGI-Quality" Presentation

Unread postby josehill » Thu Nov 13, 2014 10:54 am

Here's an interesting blog post from John McCrea, former SGI marketing/business development guy from the go-go days.

http://therealmccrea.com/2014/11/13/mak ... sentation/

He has a few other interesting posts with some "insider history" under the "SGI" tag. Worth a look.

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Re: Making an "SGI-Quality" Presentation

Unread postby vishnu » Thu Nov 13, 2014 12:52 pm

josehill wrote:Here's an interesting blog post from John McCrea, former SGI marketing/business development guy from the go-go days.

http://therealmccrea.com/2014/11/13/mak ... sentation/

He has a few other interesting posts with some "insider history" under the "SGI" tag. Worth a look.


Wow, cool! 8-)

"SGI had gotten rid of all PCs and Macs; the company ran its entire business only on SGI hardware."

I wonder how long that policy lasted... :roll:
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Unread postby uunix » Thu Nov 13, 2014 1:44 pm

Great stories, added to my favourites .. last thing I added to my favourites was BOFH..
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Re: Making an "SGI-Quality" Presentation

Unread postby sgifanatic » Thu Nov 13, 2014 3:00 pm

Great find. Thanks for sharing the link. Will make for great leisure reading!
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Re: Making an "SGI-Quality" Presentation

Unread postby josehill » Thu Nov 13, 2014 7:03 pm

vishnu wrote:"SGI had gotten rid of all PCs and Macs; the company ran its entire business only on SGI hardware."

I wonder how long that policy lasted... :roll:

Quite a while, actually. Pretty much until the very late 90s, IIRC.

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Re: Making an "SGI-Quality" Presentation

Unread postby sgifanatic » Thu Nov 13, 2014 7:09 pm

josehill wrote:
vishnu wrote:"SGI had gotten rid of all PCs and Macs; the company ran its entire business only on SGI hardware."

I wonder how long that policy lasted... :roll:

Quite a while, actually. Pretty much until the very late 90s, IIRC.


There is a Mac-like icon in one of the desktop snapshots on the McCrea blog. Here's the one I mean:

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I've never actually seen that particular icon on any of my SGI systems. Is that a Mac on the network? Or just a generic icon for a remote system?
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Re: Making an "SGI-Quality" Presentation

Unread postby hamei » Fri Nov 14, 2014 6:26 pm

josehill wrote:Quite a while, actually. Pretty much until the very late 90s, IIRC.

I have my doubts ... there was quite a bit of bitching in the newsgroups about having to have two computers just to write a simple report, because Nedit was not exactly a word processor ...

Jose, do you know if John was ever a cheerleader for the Dallas cowboys ? Or maybe a Miss America contestant ? Do you know what's really appalling ? As stupid as he apparently is, the people running SGI were even dumber. Incredible. I wonder how they found their way home at night ?

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Re: Making an "SGI-Quality" Presentation

Unread postby josehill » Fri Nov 14, 2014 6:50 pm

hamei wrote:I have my doubts ... there was quite a bit of bitching in the newsgroups about having to have two computers just to write a simple report, because Nedit was not exactly a word processor ...

That started in the late 90s. I spent a lot of time at SGI facilities in the mid/late 90s. You'd see Macs and PCs in some of the engineering/training labs where they were doing networking and interoperability stuff, you generally wouldn't see them in people's offices.

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Re: Making an "SGI-Quality" Presentation

Unread postby hamei » Fri Nov 14, 2014 7:33 pm

josehill wrote: ... you generally wouldn't see them in people's offices.

That's probably why they were bitching :)

Would it have been so fricking hard for a high-tech super-hacker multi-billion dollar company to put a little effort into Abiword ? Sheesh.

Did you notice that conicidentally Mr McCrea did debunk an SGI myth ? The push to "big iron" came in 1994 after they made all their money in workstations !!!

Which kind of smears horseshit all over the claims of "our code optimisation is intended for massively-parallel supercomputers, not those crummy little desktops .. we just do the desktops as a courtesy to our Big Name, Big Money, Famous Customers."

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Re: Making an "SGI-Quality" Presentation

Unread postby smj » Fri Nov 14, 2014 8:49 pm

Working in IT on Wall Street, we were happily getting by with just a DEC or Sun workstation on our desk in the mid-90s. Largely because we had licenses for things like Applix Aster*x (office suite), IslandWrite, ZMail, Wingz spreadsheet, etc. (Later they made us use Lotus Notes, but the UNIX version was no more/less dreadful than the PC version IIRC.)
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Re: Making an "SGI-Quality" Presentation

Unread postby hamei » Fri Nov 14, 2014 10:37 pm

smj wrote:Working in IT on Wall Street, we were happily getting by with just a DEC or Sun workstation on our desk in the mid-90s. Largely because we had licenses for things like Applix Aster*x (office suite), IslandWrite, ZMail, Wingz spreadsheet, etc.

Ja, you can do pretty much whatever you want on Irix, too. The problem is not what you send, it's what you get. This g-d docx thing feels like a time warp back to 1995 :(

You would think humans would be smarter than that by now, wouldn't you ? We standardized on base 10 and arabic letters, we standardized on paper sizes, we standardized on railroad gauges, we standardized on 24 hours per day and 12 months per year, we standardized on nuts and bolt sizes, we standardized on road widths, we standardized on plywood sizes and nail sizes and wire sizes and red yellow green for traffic lights but given the chance to set up a standard right from the beginning, it was 2,000 BC all over again. Without Raquel Welch or the dinosaurs :(
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Re: Making an "SGI-Quality" Presentation

Unread postby vishnu » Sat Nov 15, 2014 12:39 pm

Unix on the desktop would have been viable if the Open Group/OSF had ever gotten off their dead asses and convinced Microsoft to port Office to X. The fact that Office ran on the Mac is the only thing that kept Apple alive until the Steve Jobs/NExT reboot.
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Re: Making an "SGI-Quality" Presentation

Unread postby johnmccrea » Thu Nov 20, 2014 5:01 pm

Thanks for linking to my post. I've got a lot more planned.

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Re: Making an "SGI-Quality" Presentation

Unread postby foetz » Thu Nov 20, 2014 9:32 pm

johnmccrea wrote:Thanks for linking to my post. I've got a lot more planned.

thanks for that stuff john and welcome here :-)


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