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 Post subject: Missing IP numbers..
Unread postPosted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 2:00 am 
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I put this wiki article together mostly from the hinv section of nekochan...
http://www.nekochan.net/wiki/ ... stem_names)

I got to wondering .. What happened to IP1, IP2, IP3, IP4, IP5, IP8, IP11, etc.... ???

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 Post subject: Re: Missing IP numbers..
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Several of the IP numbers you mention did exist: http://old.sgistuff.net/hardware/tables.php#ip

The rest probably never made it to a real product. Which makes you wonder what happened between IP35 (Fuel) and IP53 (Tezro).

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 Post subject: Re: Missing IP numbers..
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jan-jaap wrote:
Several of the IP numbers you mention did exist: http://old.sgistuff.net/hardware/tables.php#ip

The rest probably never made it to a real product. Which makes you wonder what happened between IP35 (Fuel) and IP53 (Tezro).


Thanks for the link.

I guess we will never know what the missing ones might have been if they had been released..

That thing with the SW/HW IPs had confused me a little. If someone wants to clean up the table and fill in the blanks..

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 Post subject: Re: Missing IP numbers..
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jan-jaap wrote:
Which makes you wonder what happened between IP35 (Fuel) and IP53 (Tezro).


could be just a joke. 35 <-> 53

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 Post subject: Re: Missing IP numbers..
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PymbleSoftware wrote:
I put this wiki article together mostly from the hinv section of nekochan...
"http://www.nekochan.net/wiki/IP_Numbers(Module_and_system_names)"


Nice work. I've updated it some. Feel free to join in, all -- the water's warm! :)

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 Post subject: Re: Missing IP numbers..
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zuluchas wrote:
PymbleSoftware wrote:
I put this wiki article together mostly from the hinv section of nekochan...
"http://www.nekochan.net/wiki/IP_Numbers(Module_and_system_names)"


Nice work. I've updated it some. Feel free to join in, all -- the water's warm! :)


I have messed with the wiki topic a little, I hope that is it an improvement..

I noticed something...

For a certain range of time, even numbered machines are always "lower-end of the era", ie workstations as apposed to servers, which explains some of the gaps at least. Some missing odd numbers are times when they designed more workstations than servers.

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 Post subject: Re: Missing IP numbers..
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foetz wrote:
jan-jaap wrote:
Which makes you wonder what happened between IP35 (Fuel) and IP53 (Tezro).


could be just a joke. 35 <-> 53


Maybe. But then it got lost when the 1GHz R16000 Tezro were introduced, as these are IP59...

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 Post subject: Re: Missing IP numbers..
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Maybe. But then it got lost when the 1GHz R16000 Tezro were introduced, as these are IP59...

By then, the Keepers of the Olde Wayes had long departed the building. Those who followed had incomplete knowledge of the Legends.


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 Post subject: Re: Missing IP numbers..
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josehill wrote:
miod wrote:
Maybe. But then it got lost when the 1GHz R16000 Tezro were introduced, as these are IP59...

By then, the Keepers of the Olde Wayes had long departed the building. Those who followed had incomplete knowledge of the Legends.


hehe, could indeed be true :D

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 Post subject: Re: Missing IP numbers..
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PymbleSoftware wrote:
I put this wiki article together mostly from the hinv section of nekochan...
http://www.nekochan.net/wiki/ ... stem_names)

Just wanted to check it now but got only
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There is currently no text in this page.

Anyway, this might have been already noted there but the "Hardware Developer Handbook, Release 2.0" gives "HP1" as processor ID for the Indigo, not IP12 [as per Gerhard's beautiful page] - but maybe it's a typo?

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 Post subject: Re: Missing IP numbers..
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Oskar45 wrote:
PymbleSoftware wrote:
I put this wiki article together mostly from the hinv section of nekochan...
http://www.nekochan.net/wiki/ ... stem_names)

Just wanted to check it now but got only
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There is currently no text in this page.
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Yup, that's due to the last ')' missing from the URL when clicking on it in the text. Add a ')' to it in your browser's address line and you'll get there - or try this: http://www.nekochan.net/wiki/index.php/IP_Numbers(Module_and_system_names). Apparently, URLs with brackets don't quite work without the 'url' tags.

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 Post subject: Re: Missing IP numbers..
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emgaron wrote:
Oskar45 wrote:
PymbleSoftware wrote:
I put this wiki article together mostly from the hinv section of nekochan...
http://www.nekochan.net/wiki/ ... stem_names)

Just wanted to check it now but got only
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There is currently no text in this page.
[...]

Yup, that's due to the last ')' missing from the URL when clicking on it in the text. Add a ')' to it in your browser's address line and you'll get there - or try this: http://www.nekochan.net/wiki/index.php/IP_Numbers(Module_and_system_names). Apparently, URLs with brackets don't quite work without the 'url' tags.

Thanks, it worked. My above comment regarding Indigo's hardware IP seems to be still valid, though...

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 Post subject: Re: Missing IP numbers..
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My above comment regarding Indigo's hardware IP seems to be still valid, though...

Had a look at an R3000 mainboard and it says "HP1 assy xxx-xxxx-xxx". But I know for a fact IRIX calls it IP12.

The codename for the Indigo was 'Hollywood', maybe that has something to do with it?

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 Post subject: Re: Missing IP numbers..
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HP1 -> Indigo R3000 (IP12)
HP2 -> Indigo R4000 (IP20).

HP1 is all the major components of an IP12 (PI 4D/3x) (minus VME interface) in a different layout. HP2/IP20 has no siblings. I think the only reason that they kept the "HP" number was for historical reasons. HP1 was the first time that they "rearranged" a system board, so perhaps that's the reason they did the different naming. Later (Indy) they gave it a different IP number (essential components of an IP22, but labeled IP24).

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