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 Post subject: IRIX 6.5.19 Soon
Unread postPosted: Wed Feb 05, 2003 3:48 pm 
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Looks like the release of IRIX 6.5.19 is right around the corner:

IRIX 6.5.19 IRIX Update

Has some interesting new things in there like /dev/random, IPv6 and ssh.

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Very cool that it'll be out, but it doesn't do any of us hobbyists much good, :( Not unless we want to get from the scalpers on ebay.

Dang! and 5 disks this time...


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It's a shame that probably the most useful piece of this software for most of us won't be available for 9 months:

Macromedia 5.0 plug-in 1.0


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max_impact wrote:
It's a shame that probably the most useful piece of this software for most of us won't be available for 9 months:

Macromedia 5.0 plug-in 1.0


Probably not even then, since the Applications CD isn't downloadable.

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 Post subject: IPv6
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Very cool, IPv6! Was just looking for that for IRIX.


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SGI or Macromedia should make this freely available - people with service contracts are not the only ones who want to make good use of their machines :x


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max_impact wrote:
SGI or Macromedia should make this freely available - people with service contracts are not the only ones who want to make good use of their machines :x


I've never understood this horrible policy of SGI... Last year I've sent a inquiry to SGI because of a compatibility question: The first response was a PDF file to sign a service contract for 500,- $ - after I complained they answered the question...

The lack of new versions of Shockwave/Flash players and QuickTime support is, in my opinion, a shame.


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Aside from the opensource stuff and Alias|Wavefront, everything seems to be behind the power curve when it comes to IRIX stuff. Stuff is usually a whole version build or two behind the more popular hardware, extremely experimental, late getting realeased or tied up in red tape somewhere. The other option is the $3,000 and up price tags on your software.

It all adds to a depressing matter IMHO...


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>Aside from the opensource stuff and Alias|Wavefront, everything seems to be behind the power curve when it comes to IRIX stuff. Stuff is usually a whole version build or two behind the more popular hardware, extremely experimental, late getting realeased or tied up in red tape >somewhere. The other option is the $3,000 and up price tags on your software.

I gotta disagree here.

Admittedly there isn't as much software available for Irix as the more "popular" platforms but there's still a large amount of very good software available for Irix in the content creation side of things. For example:

Discreet Flint, Flame, Inferno
Discreet Fire, Smoke

-all irix exclusive-

Electronic Farm Mule
Jaleo

-irix exclusive-

Nuke
Apple Shake
Houdini Halo
Maya
Softimage xsi
Softimage 3D

.....the list goes on.

And the Software which is realeased for multi platforms (Softimage, Maya etc) is on the same realease version and costs the same no matter what platform you choose to go with.
Except Shake....


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I agree that there's some fantastic Irix software, but not providing something so fundamental (these days) as a flash plugin for a browser only hurts the enthusiast market - I like my Irix desktop and I want to use it happily - sgi should look more kindly on those who are in positions to be able to recruit new sales :?


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... sorry, but I have to say that: And even if you bother to ask SGI, Macromedia & Co. simple questions about new releases of Flash etc. you will get messages like "It's not our fault...", "... we don't know"... - This is not a acceptable behavior.


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 Post subject: petition
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Let's make a petition to SGI
if enough ppl sign it - maybe SGI will get a clue.

http://www.petitiononline.com/ anyone ?


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 Post subject: Re: petition
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psergiu wrote:
Let's make a petition to SGI
if enough ppl sign it - maybe SGI will get a clue.

http://www.petitiononline.com/ anyone ?


We should... whether it will change something or not, we should let them know that we are a loyal but dissatisfied community...


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I agree we should at least to try to make such a petition, but we should also find a way to communicate about this so that a lot of SGI hobbyists join them.


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I'm not sure what a petition would acomplish... They may just get mad a try harder to squeeze all the hobbyists out. And I was try to make point that unless your pocket is bottomless you don't have as many often updated and well supported spftware titles to choose from. A|W has some stuff that is under $1000, but not much.

Yes, there is quite a bit of stuff for IRIX if you have the money... If you have the money...

I am also not saying there is nothing else out there for free or in a reasonable hobbyists budget, just not as much as there used to be. Of course, with the new purchase price tags, one can see why they would charege so much for a single license. The software companies are in this mind set, "If the these guys are getting 14 machines that cost $30,000 each, then 10% of the cost of the machine for each lisence is reasonable..."

Maybe I was making it all that clear about what I was meaning previously, sometimes my sarcasm is really subtle. :wink:


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