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WTB: Sun Ultra 60

Unread postby SiliconClassics » Wed Mar 29, 2017 9:01 am

Would like a Sun Ultra system to run LightWave 3D, preferably a dual-CPU Ultra 60 with Elite3D graphics, but will consider any Ultra 60 in good condition, especially if close to NYC.
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Re: WTB: Sun Ultra 60

Unread postby pilot345 » Wed Mar 29, 2017 6:41 pm

I have a blade 1000, dual 800Mhz UltraSparc III or something like that. It has Xvr-1000 graphics.

Its the updated/latest version of the Ultra 80 chassis, which was the larger cousin of the Ultra 60. I don't know if that helps you? or if you have some specific need for the 60 and elite 3d due to software requirements. I imagine the Blade 1000, upgraded to dual 1.2 GHZ would make quite a nice Solaris workstation. It's really a beast of a computer.

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Re: WTB: Sun Ultra 60

Unread postby vishnu » Wed Mar 29, 2017 8:59 pm

Good grief, I just looked at Ultra 60s on Ebay and all I can say is... Good grief! Well, actually I saw one for a reasonable price but it was a beater... :cry:

When my employers took my Indigo2 away they plunked a shiny new Ultra 60 on my desk, and it ran Pro/E 2001i much better than the I2. Later they gave me a Blade 1000 and now a Blade 2500 (got one of my own at home too), I know there are some Sun haters on here but to me they're great machines... :mrgreen:
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Re: WTB: Sun Ultra 60

Unread postby Raion-Fox » Thu Mar 30, 2017 3:39 am

I like Suns myself. But they're a bit underpowered at times.
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Re: WTB: Sun Ultra 60

Unread postby SiliconClassics » Thu Mar 30, 2017 5:49 am

Thx Pilot, Blade 1k is a beast of a machine but I'd prefer an Ultra 60 because it's more "period correct" for LightWave. Plus I think the case design is cool.

Should have picked one up five or ten years ago when they were cheap. I remember walking past a dumpster full of old Sun Ultra systems on an NYC sidewalk - some Wall Street firm or tech company was just tossing them out.
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Re: WTB: Sun Ultra 60

Unread postby pilot345 » Thu Mar 30, 2017 5:57 pm

I agree, I would have almost preferred an ultra 80 because of the old school color scheme, and support for QUAD cpus.
Theres a soft place in my heart for the off white and purple of old suns. The mid span ultras did have the bunk internal IDE bus though for system disks, I dont want those lol. Any real workstation has SCSI on the motherboard.

The blade 1000 is about as good as your gonna get speed wise for a sparc workstation, and is still built like a tank unlike newer workstations from sun, mostly because it shares the case with the ultra 80. Dual 1.2ghz ain't bad. It also has some cool unique features, all parts are swappable modules, fiber channel internal hard disks, well thought out air ducting internally, some kind of funky card reader for secure login, really a neat unit.

I have quite a few other older suns too as well, I enjoy their excellent design and materials. I still fire up my maxed out SS20, just snagged a rasterflexHR for it, and two coveted VSIMMS so I can run it dual head 1600x1200.

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Re: WTB: Sun Ultra 60

Unread postby Raion-Fox » Thu Mar 30, 2017 6:08 pm

The U25 is very sturdy and faster, as well, compared to the Blades.
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Re: WTB: Sun Ultra 60

Unread postby pilot345 » Thu Mar 30, 2017 11:52 pm

Ehh, take a look at a blade 1000 / ultra 80 case interior, and the chassis overall design is much more reminiscent of a older sun workstation to me. The Ultra 25 was the first sun workstation to have an intel cpu option, and it looks like ATX form factor and power supply. Kind of like the difference between an Octane and a Fuel, I have a few octanes because of their unique design and engineering, but wouldn't really want a Fuel even though its slightly faster, it just looks like a PC. As far as sturdy, the blade 1000 / U80 chassis is extremely strong and heavy, ask anyone who has had to move one, let alone pack and ship!

Plus the blade can have TWO 1.2ghz ultra sparcs, while the u25 can only have one 1.3ghz cpu.

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Re: WTB: Sun Ultra 60

Unread postby Raion-Fox » Fri Mar 31, 2017 9:11 am

The U25 does not have an Intel CPU option, the U20 is bigger than the U25, not the same machine.

I like it because it has SATA. The Blade systems are okay but the CPU is a bit older and slower clock for clock.

It having PCIe is a lot better, too. I do like the SS series and the Blades for certain features but they're aging and thus not as capable as they used to be. SPARC is noticeably slower than other systems in single threaded performance.

Fuels are not comparable to Octanes. A Fuel is closer to an O2 successor than an Octane successor. The big problem with fuels and why I'm getting rid of mine is simply reliability.
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