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Re: WTB-Indigo2 Stuff

Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 3:57 pm
by Raion-Fox
itsvince725 wrote:I guess I still need another hard drive sled and possibly also an optical drive sled then. I'd really like to have an optical drive.


Wouldn't we all? Check mashek.com for these items, failing that, there's always sgidepot.co.uk. Ian's got pretty much anything I'd ever need SGI-wise but due to UK -> US shipment costs for big he's not my first choice for larger/heavier stuff (Not to knock him - packages always arrive fast, in good shape and so-on!)

Also, another option would be one of these:http://www.ebay.com/itm/282359180448

Although an Apple-branded drive isn't my taste its a good drive at a good price. You would just need a centronics -> 50-pin adapter (found cheaply on ebay, and I also have them) to be able to work it.

Re: WTB-Indigo2 Stuff

Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 5:27 pm
by itsvince725
I have some spare Apple internal SCSI drives (since I have a collection of 68k and PPC Macs) but I didn't think they would work in a SGI.

Unless you're talking externals. I don't have an external SCSI CD drive yet.

Re: WTB-Indigo2 Stuff

Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 5:28 pm
by Raion-Fox
That's an external SCSI drive

Re: WTB-Indigo2 Stuff

Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 5:29 pm
by Raion-Fox
Oh shit this one needs a CD caddy. I'll find another one on eBay that doesn't :/

Re: WTB-Indigo2 Stuff

Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 5:33 pm
by itsvince725
Caddies are relatively easy to find so it's not a big deal...

I looked on that Mashek website and they have both a 3.5" caddy for a second hard disk and a 5.25" caddy for an optical drive but wow, not cheap. Will have to either shop around or put money aside for that.

Re: WTB-Indigo2 Stuff

Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2017 2:18 am
by jan-jaap
Trippynet wrote:AFAIK, sleds are required. I know someone on Neko did look at hooking a drive directly up to the backplane port, but I'm not sure if they had any success. A 68pin drive should work, but 80pin SCA drives are probably the most common ones I've seen and can be picked up pretty cheaply.

I have a SCA disk in my Indigo2 R10000. The only gotcha is the SCA adapter: the solder side of the adapter easily makes a short circuit with te metal of the disk. That's why you can see some carton there.
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As for CDROMs: back when the Indigo2 was current, a CDROM wasn't standard with every system. They were usually only used during software installation anyway, so having one external CDROM for a workgroup was much more common. That's why the 5.25" sleds are relatively rare and expensive. Also, keep in mind if you place the system on it's side on feet, you need a CDROM drive with little 'latches' in the tray to keep the disk from falling out. Older Toshibas have them.

If you go for an external CDROM: Plextor drives used to be well regarded and are easily found.

Technically, an external system disk is no problem either. That way you can at least play with the system while you keep an eye open for an affordable sled.

Re: WTB-Indigo2 Stuff

Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2017 2:56 am
by Trippynet
jan-jaap wrote:The only gotcha is the SCA adapter: the solder side of the adapter easily makes a short circuit with te metal of the disk. That's why you can see some carton there.


I had the exact same experience. When I bought my system from Ian, he'd applied gaffer tape to the back of the adapter, but it wasn't enough. Cue my Indigo2 randomly shutting down here and there. I ran it with the lid off and saw occasional sparks from the adapter as it shorted due to the pins poking through the tape. Sliding a piece of cardboard between the drive and the adapter fixed it.

Re: WTB-Indigo2 Stuff

Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2017 9:09 am
by itsvince725
I found someone on this very forum with very affordably priced drive sleds, several affordably priced internal SCSI optical drives, and hard disks and video adapters on Acronym1's eBay page.

If only I wasn't going on vacation so I could buy all this stuff right now and get the Indigo2 up and running! :P

Re: WTB-Indigo2 Stuff

Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2017 5:25 pm
by Krokodil
itsvince725 wrote:I found someone on this very forum with very affordably priced drive sleds, several affordably priced internal SCSI optical drives, and hard disks and video adapters on Acronym1's eBay page.

If only I wasn't going on vacation so I could buy all this stuff right now and get the Indigo2 up and running! :P


I recommend Acronym Systems. I just got an Indigo2 R10K and IP28 board from him. He was very good to deal with.

Re: WTB-Indigo2 Stuff

Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 4:50 pm
by ajw99uk
uunix wrote:I think roughly install standard is over a GB ?? on 6.5.22. Mind you I say that, but I install from a network dist which has a bundle of stuff.

I got my I2 with a 2GB HD, 6.5 filled it 95%. Can't remember which subversion though.

Trippynet wrote: Some drives don't support the necessary fallback to support the Indigo2's SCSI-2 bus. You won't harm anything to plug one in, but it simply won't be recognised. I'd say with the 30 or so drives I have that I've tested, I've had between a 40% to 50% success rate with them on my Indigo2 (ones that don't support it I reserve for my Fuel).

Worth looking out for drives with a "force narrow" or "force single ended" jumper setting, especially on U320 drives where AIUI the spec dropped compatibility (though in practice I suspect not all U160 drives play nicely on narrow SCSI2

Re: WTB-Indigo2 Stuff

Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2017 8:40 am
by itsvince725
Well apparently I need a new R4400 CPU board now. :(

I need at least a 150MHz unit.

Re: WTB-Indigo2 Stuff

Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2017 9:46 am
by Raion-Fox
That's tough bro.

Re: WTB-Indigo2 Stuff

Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2017 7:08 pm
by Krokodil
itsvince725 wrote:Well apparently I need a new R4400 CPU board now. :(

I need at least a 150MHz unit.


I do have an R4400 250MHZ CPU and IP22 mainboard sitting around that came out of my Indigo2 when I upgraded to R10000.

The thing is, I don't know anything about the process of shipping items internationally. Not sure how the customs stuff works mainly.

Re: WTB-Indigo2 Stuff

Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2017 7:13 pm
by itsvince725
I've only done it once and it was through eBay...so I won't be any help.

Re: WTB-Indigo2 Stuff

Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2017 8:09 pm
by Raion-Fox
It's not terrible to ship from Canada to the US. Pack the items well, you(Krokodil)'ll need to fill out the Canadian version of the postal service customs form, just put in the approx value, basic description of the contents and fill out the forms honestly. At least here in the US, postal workers are relatively up to date on the regulations and can help you fill the form out.

If you live on the west coast/mid-west of canada (i.e Calgary or Vancouver) it's gonna be expensive. But if you live close to Mississauga (the East coast Canadian-US postal area) it's going to be affordable for Vince to get it.

Really no big deal to ship internationally. If you're not comfortable shipping with Canada Post do you have FedEx there? FedEx is a bit easier to deal with internationally at a bit of a premium.