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Another Dead Fuel?

Unread postby irix7 » Tue Dec 20, 2016 8:18 am

I recently acquired a Fuel which seems to be dead. It'll power on with a flashing white LED bar and then about a minute later turn off. Sometimes, rarely, it will output video showing the PROM. I can't get the internal L1 port to respond at all but when I attach to COM1 on the back I get the output below. I never see any errors or warnings, it just turns off, usually while walking the SCSI bus but sometimes after the "Initializing PROM Device" message. I've tried reseating all of the cards, CPU module, and booting with no add-in cards, no disks, all with the same result.

I'm not very familiar with these and I can't think of what else to search for or try. Any help would be appreciated.

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IP35 PROM SGI Version 6.210  built 02:33:51 PM Aug 26, 2004
Running in DDR mode
Testing/Initializing memory ...............             DONE
Copying PROM code to memory ...............             DONE
Discovering local IO ......................             DONE
Discovering NUMAlink connectivity .........
Local hub NUMAlink is down.
*** Local network link down
DONE
Found 1 objects (1 hubs, 0 routers) in 30362 usec
Waiting for peers to complete discovery....             DONE
No other nodes present; becoming global master
Global master is /hw/rack/001/bay/01
Intializing any CPUless nodes..............             DONE
Checking partitioning information .........             DONE
No other nodes present; becoming partition master
Loading BASEIO prom .......................             DONE

BASEIO PROM Monitor SGI Version 6.210  built 02:30:38 PM Aug 26, 2004 (BE64)
1 CPUs on 1 nodes found.
Automatic update of PROM environment disabled

PS/2 Keyboard & Mouse diagnostics
    Found mouse on port 0
    Found keyboard on port 1
PS/2 Keyboard & Mouse diagnostics passed

Graphics diagnostics

Odyssey board #0 found on nasid 0
Running Odyssey xtalk sanity diag...
        Board version 1 - Buzz revision 2B
        On board sdram size: 128 Mb
        Cas latency: CAS 3
        4 banks by sdram module
Running Odyssey Buzz registers diag...
Device passed diagnostics

Installing PROM Device drivers ............             
Base I/O Ethernet set to /dev/ethernet/ef0
Installing Graphics Console...
graphics install: searching for pipe 0

Walking SCSI Adapter 0, (pci id 1)
1- 2- 3- 4- 5- 6- 7- 8- 9- 10- 11- 12- 13- 14- 15- = 0 device(s)


Walking SCSI Adapter 1, (pci id 1)
1- 2- 3- 4- 5- 6+ Device Vendor Product: TOSHIBA DVD-ROM SD-M1401
7- 8- 9- 10- 11- 12- 13- 14- 15- = 1 device(s)

Initializing PROM Device drivers ..........             DONE
Last edited by irix7 on Tue Dec 20, 2016 5:27 pm, edited 1 time in total.

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Re: Another Dead Fuel?

Unread postby Trippynet » Tue Dec 20, 2016 2:32 pm

It powering off after a minute is usually a sign of a problem with environmental monitoring. You need to hook up to the serial port in the middle of the mainboard, that gets you into the L1. Then type "env off" to disable environmental monitoring (you can do this whilst the Fuel is off, so long as the PSU has power), then see if it powers up. You should also see any L1 warnings as well.

Edit: For the internal L1 port, make sure you're using the correct serial settings! 19200 baud.
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Re: Another Dead Fuel?

Unread postby irix7 » Tue Dec 20, 2016 3:23 pm

I can't get any response out of the internal L1 port using any combination of hardware and software I have at my disposal, using any baud rate or flow control combination. I have no issues viewing messages from COM1 with the same hardware and serial cables.

I think you're right that it's something with the L1 controller but I'd have to diagnose it blind. Is it likely that the L1 is dead? I don't have an L2 box but I do see the USB device identifying itself when I connect the rear USB L1 to a computer so that appears live.

Edit: Blindly typing "env off" several times seems to have allowed me to get to a PROM monitor! Progress! Googling to see how to access the L1 from the PROM (or an installed OS if I can get that far.)

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Re: Another Dead Fuel?

Unread postby irix7 » Tue Dec 20, 2016 4:21 pm

Found the culprit. FAN 3 XIO 1 appears to have failed.

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IRIS 1# l1cmd env

************************************************
ATTENTION: Environmental monitoring is disabled!
************************************************

Description    State       Warning Limits     Fault Limits       Current
-------------- ----------  -----------------  -----------------  -------
           12V   Disabled  10%  10.80/ 13.20  20%   9.60/ 14.40   12.063
        12V IO   Disabled  10%  10.80/ 13.20  20%   9.60/ 14.40   12.188
            5V   Disabled  10%   4.50/  5.50  20%   4.00/  6.00    5.070
          3.3V   Disabled  10%   2.97/  3.63  20%   2.64/  3.96    3.337
          2.5V   Disabled  10%   2.25/  2.75  20%   2.00/  3.00    2.470
          1.5V   Disabled  10%   1.35/  1.65  20%   1.20/  1.80    1.466
        5V AUX   Disabled  10%   4.50/  5.50  20%   4.00/  6.00    5.096
      3.3V AUX   Disabled  10%   2.97/  3.63  20%   2.64/  3.96    3.285
 PIMM 12V BIAS   Disabled  10%  10.80/ 13.20  20%   9.60/ 14.40   12.188
          SRAM   Disabled  10%   2.25/  2.75  20%   2.00/  3.00    2.535
          VCPU   Disabled  10%   1.44/  1.76  20%   1.28/  1.92    1.593
     PIMM 1.5V   Disabled  10%   1.35/  1.65  20%   1.20/  1.80    1.495
 PIMM 3.3V AUX   Disabled  10%   2.97/  3.63  20%   2.64/  3.96    3.268
   PIMM 5V AUX   Disabled  10%   4.50/  5.50  20%   4.00/  6.00    5.122
  XIO 12V BIAS   Disabled  10%  10.80/ 13.20  20%   9.60/ 14.40   12.000
        XIO 5V   Disabled  10%   4.50/  5.50  20%   4.00/  6.00    5.070
      XIO 2.5V   Disabled  10%   2.25/  2.75  20%   2.00/  3.00    2.470
  XIO 3.3V AUX   Disabled  10%   2.97/  3.63  20%   2.64/  3.96    3.302

Description     State       Warning RPM  Current RPM
--------------- ----------  -----------  -----------
FAN  0  EXHAUST   Disabled          920         1155
FAN  1       HD   Disabled         1560         2265
FAN  2      PCI   Disabled         1120         1591
FAN  3    XIO 1   Disabled         1600            0
FAN  4    XIO 2   Disabled         1600         3308
FAN  5       PS   Disabled         1349         3096

                              Advisory   Critical   Fault      Current     
Description       State       Temp       Temp       Temp       Temp       
----------------- ----------  ---------  ---------  ---------  --------- 
 0 NODE 0            Enabled    [Autofan Control]    80C/176F   43C/109F
 1 NODE 1            Enabled    [Autofan Control]    80C/176F   41C/105F
 2 NODE 2            Enabled    [Autofan Control]    80C/176F   34C/ 93F
 3 PIMM              Enabled    [Autofan Control]    80C/176F   51C/123F
 4 ODYSSEY           Enabled    [Autofan Control]    80C/176F   46C/114F
 5 BEDROCK           Enabled    [Autofan Control]    85C/185F   45C/113F


************************************************
ATTENTION: Environmental monitoring is disabled!
************************************************

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Re: Another Dead Fuel?

Unread postby miod » Tue Dec 20, 2016 10:54 pm

Trippynet wrote:Edit: For the internal L1 port, make sure you're using the correct serial settings! 19200 baud.

Don't you mean 38400 here?
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Re: Another Dead Fuel?

Unread postby Trippynet » Wed Dec 21, 2016 12:26 am

miod wrote:Don't you mean 38400 here?


You're right, I do :(

That'll teach me to quickly edit a post straight before going to bed!
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Re: Another Dead Fuel?

Unread postby irix7 » Thu Dec 22, 2016 2:01 pm

Trippynet wrote:
miod wrote:Don't you mean 38400 here?


You're right, I do :(

That'll teach me to quickly edit a post straight before going to bed!


It's okay, I wasn't sure if other systems used that. 38400 is what I was connecting at but I did try other speeds. I still can't get any output from the L1 port. Very odd, but other than that the system is humming along nicely.

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Re: Another Dead Fuel?

Unread postby jan-jaap » Thu Dec 22, 2016 11:55 pm

irix7 wrote:38400 is what I was connecting at but I did try other speeds. I still can't get any output from the L1 port. Very odd, but other than that the system is humming along nicely.

You need a serial connection with hardware handshaking, not a simple 3-wire connection.
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