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Re: Possibly a stupid question about 9111-285

Unread postby ClassicHasClass » Wed Sep 04, 2013 9:21 pm

I have Catia on one of my HP C8000s, but it came with it from its previous owner. Haven't figured out how to start it up yet.
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Re: Possibly a stupid question about 9111-285

Unread postby vishnu » Thu Sep 05, 2013 12:14 am

I'm pretty sure it starts from a shell script that does a bunch of snooping around on the system and sets 87 billion environment variables that read like Polish jawbreakers and then launches the Catia binary...
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Re: Possibly a stupid question about 9111-285

Unread postby jeremy123 » Thu Sep 05, 2013 4:40 am

I got the GXT6500P initialized under X but its not usable - colors mixed and absolutely unstable. headphone jack - sure its there
I tried many audio mixers - that would be a smallest problem - but the software has nothing to interact with - there is no /dev/mixer - just /dev/paud0 (or similar) and thats about all - I was wondering why do they (IBM) sold it with this audio cards while there is absolutely no way to use them in AIX it gets me thinking there may be some additional AIX CD that I don't have or so. If it comes to "variables that read like Polish jawbreakers" no problem either I speak fluent polish ;).
What I need this machine to do is: Play video(with sound ;) ) run some browser (don't need flash shit) then it can stay on my desk
otherwise it goes under the desk and will be used as a file server - then I would love to have 8 HD
So far with linux and powermac-radeon card it runs fine - did some video reencoding with ffmpeg - CPU power is impressive.
previous time with aix I went as far as having ffmpeg compiled with help of Michael Perzl - I have sent him few mails and he helped me understand linking in AIX etc - really friendly man and has build himself a huge repo of rpms. But it is more usefull for me now with linux. Struggle continues.
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Re: Possibly a stupid question about 9111-285

Unread postby hamei » Thu Sep 05, 2013 7:38 am

jeremy123 wrote:I tried many audio mixers - that would be a smallest problem - but the software has nothing to interact with - there is no /dev/mixer - just /dev/paud0 (or similar) and thats about all - I was wondering why do they (IBM) sold it with this audio cards while there is absolutely no way to use them in AIX


Okay, so I am kinda lost here ...

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(#8244) Audio PCI Adapter for Workstations

(No longer available as of February 29, 2008)

The Audio PCI Adapter for Workstations is a high performance workstation class audio PCI adapter that is optimized for support in the AIX professional workstation environment and their associated applications. It is 3.3 volt, 32 bit PCI adapter that runs at 33MHz speed and complies with the Intel AC 1997 Version 2.1 Specifications. The Audio PCI Adapter for Workstations provides external jacks for headphones, speaker output, line input, and microphone input as well as an internal connector for CD or DVD drive audio input.

    Attributes provided: One Audio PCI Adapter with internal and external audio connectors
    Attributes required: One available PCI slot
    For 9111-285: (#8244)
        Minimum required: 0
        Maximum allowed: 1 (Initial order maximum: 1)
        OS level required: AIX 5.2 or AIX 5.3, or later.
        Initial Order/MES/Both/Supported: Both
        CSU: Yes
        Return parts MES: No

Are you saying that the sound does not work at all ? In which case I'd be looking at drivers, etc ? Or do you mean you can't control the volume ?

If it is Problem #2 then somewhere between

http://en.akihabaranews.com/19603/audio ... rom-elecom

and

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Tannoy-5-1-Prof ... 20d762c496

you should be able to find a solution.
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Re: Possibly a stupid question about 9111-285

Unread postby ClassicHasClass » Thu Sep 05, 2013 9:55 am

Michael Perzl is a gem, especially after AIXPDSLIB went away (RIP), though some of those packages will work fine even on current AIX versions.
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Re: Possibly a stupid question about 9111-285

Unread postby vishnu » Thu Sep 05, 2013 9:58 am

hamei wrote:The Audio PCI Adapter for Workstations is a high performance workstation class audio PCI adapter that is optimized for support in the AIX professional workstation environment and their associated applications. It is 3.3 volt, 32 bit PCI adapter that runs at 33MHz speed and complies with the Intel AC 1997 Version 2.1 Specifications.

Well there you have it! Just compile the Linux Kernel AC97 driver as a module and you should be golden, I've been using AC97 sound hardware since Kernel 2.0.34 and it works great... :mrgreen:
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Re: Possibly a stupid question about 9111-285

Unread postby hamei » Fri Sep 06, 2013 6:31 am

What was the deal with AIX 5L ? I had the impression that was supposed to run a bunch / most / all Linux binaries directly in AIX ?
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Re: Possibly a stupid question about 9111-285

Unread postby wenp » Fri Sep 06, 2013 10:07 pm

jeremy123 wrote: I have tried aix 5 - 7 very interesting os...

It sounds like you tried AIX 5 to 7 on the same machine. How did they compare in terms of performance and resource requirements?

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Re: Possibly a stupid question about 9111-285

Unread postby jeremy123 » Thu Sep 12, 2013 9:07 am

To clarify the situation:
In Linux: everything works, sound works, graphics works (with powermac radeon - console display to).

But Ideally I would like to run AIX to keep it authentic - in AIX: no sound - device /dev/paud0 present but no way to control it or use it.

Additional problem: additional scsi backplane is not supported (so it seems) unless adding another scsi controller would help
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Re: Possibly a stupid question about 9111-285

Unread postby jeremy123 » Thu Sep 12, 2013 9:12 am

wenp wrote:
jeremy123 wrote: I have tried aix 5 - 7 very interesting os...

It sounds like you tried AIX 5 to 7 on the same machine. How did they compare in terms of performance and resource requirements?



Well to be honest I cant see any difference in performance.
Its rather additional futures in 7. But then I haven't really test it hard, maybe there would be a difference after 4 days of calculations.
For now definitely most impressive part of this machine is disk subsystem - super fast. If it only could take 8 drives it would be a treasure.
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Re: Possibly a stupid question about 9111-285

Unread postby vishnu » Thu Sep 12, 2013 1:14 pm

ClassicHasClass wrote:I have Catia on one of my HP C8000s, but it came with it from its previous owner. Haven't figured out how to start it up yet.

Okay I broke down and installed it on my Octane, the magic invocation to start it is a shell script named "catstart" somewhere in its insatallation root (can't recall the foldername exactly).

wenp wrote:Well to be honest I cant see any difference in performance.
Its rather additional futures in 7. But then I haven't really test it hard, maybe there would be a difference after 4 days of calculations.
For now definitely most impressive part of this machine is disk subsystem - super fast. If it only could take 8 drives it would be a treasure.


Did it have any of the CD/DVD/optical drives in the back bays when you got it?
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Re: Possibly a stupid question about 9111-285

Unread postby ClassicHasClass » Thu Sep 12, 2013 7:25 pm

the magic invocation to start it is a shell script named "catstart" somewhere in its insatallation root (can't recall the foldername exactly).


Thanks! I'll try this next time I get the C8K on the workbench.

additional scsi backplane is not supported (so it seems) unless adding another scsi controller would help


That should certainly work in AIX 7. What does lsdev say?
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Re: Possibly a stupid question about 9111-285

Unread postby jeremy123 » Mon Nov 04, 2013 3:57 pm

when I had second scsi-backplane installed (identical PN of FRU as the first one)
2nd being the lower 4 drives. Machine does not boot - it will shutdown after while.
Its not clear to me if it possible or impossible to run it with 8 drives. But so far no luck.

I have 2 types of the scsi backplane - one is as I mentioned above same as the upper one.

at the moment machine has the second backplane with no drive connectors (kind of a blank) but it has a connector on inside from which the cable is run to the back of the machine (to have a scsi conector on the back) runs fine with this one and also scsi-devices connected through that backconector->blank-scsi-backplane are detected fine.
I'm worried its sort of marketing-Idea and disabled functionality so it won't take more drives in this workstation. - 9111-520 is identical mobo but horizontally rack-mounted machine marketed as a Server and
docs clearly show it can take 2 scsi-backplanes
Wonder if anybody can confirm that.

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