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Re: IBM RS/6000 Thinkpad Laptop "Model 860"

Unread postby geo » Tue Oct 23, 2012 10:57 pm

pentium wrote:If you're insane I believe you can install Windows NT 4 for PowerPC on the 800 series laptops. ;)
hehe if ever i get this, will not ruin it by installing NT :) also, i think this a nice way to try AIX right?
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Re: IBM RS/6000 Thinkpad Laptop "Model 860"

Unread postby GL1zdA » Wed Oct 24, 2012 1:07 am

pentium wrote:If you're insane I believe you can install Windows NT 4 for PowerPC on the 800 series laptops. ;)

OS/2 for PowerPC might also work on the 860.
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Re: IBM RS/6000 Thinkpad Laptop "Model 860"

Unread postby SAQ » Wed Oct 24, 2012 8:56 am

geo wrote:
pentium wrote:If you're insane I believe you can install Windows NT 4 for PowerPC on the 800 series laptops. ;)
hehe if ever i get this, will not ruin it by installing NT :) also, i think this a nice way to try AIX right?


I put NT on an Alpha once. It was just like any other NT4 machine, and much harder to find software for. The Alpha had the advantage of FX!32, which the PPC doesn't have. I'd say stick with AIX.

OS/2 for PPC was very beta.

AIX gets weirder as it gets older. I wouldn't use a machine that only supports 4.1 as my introduction to AIX, though v4 was better than v3.
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Re: IBM RS/6000 Thinkpad Laptop "Model 860"

Unread postby vwarez » Wed Oct 24, 2012 11:11 am

geo wrote:hehehe that's the same answer i got from the seller :) but hmm i wonder how about vwarez? does your battery pack still got juice? you mention only issue is password so i thought everything works as is including battery right?


I’m still looking for the AIX CDs, so laptop status is unknown. On the other hand, the battery takes full charge!!
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Re: IBM RS/6000 Thinkpad Laptop "Model 860"

Unread postby pentium » Sat Oct 27, 2012 9:55 pm

vwarez wrote:[

I’m still looking for the AIX CDs, so laptop status is unknown. On the other hand, the battery takes full charge!!

But how long does it last?
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Re: IBM RS/6000 Thinkpad Laptop "Model 860"

Unread postby hamei » Sun Oct 28, 2012 7:41 am

GL1zdA wrote:OS/2 for PowerPC might also work on the 860.

If screenshots are proof, yes, it does.

But then you run into the BeOS effect - it installs, looks good, runs great, but there's nothing you can do with it :shock:

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Re: IBM RS/6000 Thinkpad Laptop "Model 860"

Unread postby geo » Fri Nov 09, 2012 6:51 am

vwarez wrote:
geo wrote:hehehe that's the same answer i got from the seller :) but hmm i wonder how about vwarez? does your battery pack still got juice? you mention only issue is password so i thought everything works as is including battery right?


I’m still looking for the AIX CDs, so laptop status is unknown. On the other hand, the battery takes full charge!!

hi vwarez, hows your laptop? wow! that battery really was taken care well :)

btw i got another seller here but its an 850 and he doesn't know how to operate it, he only knows when powered up it stucks on this screen:
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is this still repairable? i don't have experience with AIX, but this screen, in what state is this? PROM/BIOS?
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Re: IBM RS/6000 Thinkpad Laptop "Model 860"

Unread postby tingo » Fri Nov 09, 2012 11:05 am

My guess: dead / not working hard drive.
Perhaps the serial port on these can be used as a serial console?
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install Linux on a 860: http://users.cis.fiu.edu/~ayanic01/rs6k/
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Re: IBM RS/6000 Thinkpad Laptop "Model 860"

Unread postby kjaer » Fri Nov 09, 2012 11:19 am

geo wrote:is this still repairable? i don't have experience with AIX, but this screen, in what state is this? PROM/BIOS?


That is the power-on self-test screen. If you press one or the other of the F-keys (F2? F4? I always have to check) when that screen is on, you can get into the various self-test/configuration modes.

I forget what happens if no boot device is found, but it may very well just sit there at that screen forever when that happens. It could be a bad sign, or it could just be an unformatted drive. Check that there's one even installed, by lifting up the keyboard. It just snaps in place at the front, with a hinge at the back. The hard drive will be clearly visible underneath, at the left (battery on the right, removable media bay in the middle; memory cards underneath all of that).

If it's missing, you might have some difficulty finding a replacement, since it uses a 2.5" SCSI drive in a special carrier. But you could make it work with a "normal" SCSI drive connected to the port on the rear.
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Re: IBM RS/6000 Thinkpad Laptop "Model 860"

Unread postby rjb » Sun Nov 11, 2012 10:28 am

I actually have one of these, though mine's currently offline until I get a CF card for it. Will be trying out installation with an Artmix PowerMonster adapter when I get it all back together. I've been running NT 4.0 PPC on it, it will install from the stock CDROM, but you need a 2 floppies, one to get the ARC loader for the platform installed and another to load the machine-specific HAL. The nice thing about NT is it has wider PCMCIA support. However, if I could ever get AIX 4.1 media, I would love to play with the video input on the 860 - all the documentation I have found implies it is only supported there. Linux is another possibility for it, though I have not tried that since the 2.2 kernel or so. I know platform support for PReP is getting rusty there.

If you don't have a floppy drive you can build a custom NT4 install CD that includes the ARC loader and HAL for it - I have instructions for making that somewhere.
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Re: IBM RS/6000 Thinkpad Laptop "Model 860"

Unread postby geo » Thu Nov 15, 2012 3:21 am

tingo wrote:My guess: dead / not working hard drive.
Perhaps the serial port on these can be used as a serial console?
More info here:
install Linux on a 860: http://users.cis.fiu.edu/~ayanic01/rs6k/

hi tingo, i see hmm maybe, coz i can see the hard drive from another picture
anyway i just give up and looking forward to that other seller maybe i can convince him to drop the price a lil bit.. 5000RMB still a bit painful :)

kjaer wrote:That is the power-on self-test screen. If you press one or the other of the F-keys (F2? F4? I always have to check) when that screen is on, you can get into the various self-test/configuration modes.

I forget what happens if no boot device is found, but it may very well just sit there at that screen forever when that happens. It could be a bad sign, or it could just be an unformatted drive. Check that there's one even installed, by lifting up the keyboard. It just snaps in place at the front, with a hinge at the back. The hard drive will be clearly visible underneath, at the left (battery on the right, removable media bay in the middle; memory cards underneath all of that).

If it's missing, you might have some difficulty finding a replacement, since it uses a 2.5" SCSI drive in a special carrier. But you could make it work with a "normal" SCSI drive connected to the port on the rear.

hi kjaer, thanks for the details but i think i wont buy it anymore, just waist if ever the hd is dead :( yes there was a drive inside, saw it from his other picture. but yeah, bad sign, i think no need to waist time and money right? and as what you said, its difficult to find a replacement, so no thanks, if really want to, ill just buy that working one with high price :) but neh.. just wait til he decide to drop the price :)

rjb wrote:I actually have one of these, though mine's currently offline until I get a CF card for it. Will be trying out installation with an Artmix PowerMonster adapter when I get it all back together. I've been running NT 4.0 PPC on it, it will install from the stock CDROM, but you need a 2 floppies, one to get the ARC loader for the platform installed and another to load the machine-specific HAL. The nice thing about NT is it has wider PCMCIA support. However, if I could ever get AIX 4.1 media, I would love to play with the video input on the 860 - all the documentation I have found implies it is only supported there. Linux is another possibility for it, though I have not tried that since the 2.2 kernel or so. I know platform support for PReP is getting rusty there.

If you don't have a floppy drive you can build a custom NT4 install CD that includes the ARC loader and HAL for it - I have instructions for making that somewhere.

hi rjb, wow! good to hear your's still running and even put something new :) i see, so video just works with AIX.. are those two In and Out right? thanks will keep that in mind ;) but first need to get one first :)

btw i wonder which is more nice to have, this IBM Thinkpad POWER or the Alphabook 1?
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Re: IBM RS/6000 Thinkpad Laptop "Model 860"

Unread postby hamei » Thu Nov 15, 2012 5:57 pm

geo wrote:anyway i just give up and looking forward to that other seller maybe i can convince him to drop the price a lil bit.. 5000RMB still a bit painful :)

Don't even consider it, geo. If you buy something from Japan they say "It's junk and bad !" if it even has a tiny scratch. If you look at anything unusual (aka anything that's not a cheapo peecee) in China, it's been drop-kicked through the goal posts of life about three hundred times but they want a million five for it. And they won't bargain. They have no idea what it is and can't even turn it on but by god, they know it's worth san shi wan rmb.

They are idiots. They can keep their beloved crap forever. You will see gloriously overpriced trash that's been on taobao for years. Literally years. Things like a 195 mhz pimm for an Octane for $800 ...

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Re: IBM RS/6000 Thinkpad Laptop "Model 860"

Unread postby geo » Thu Nov 15, 2012 7:29 pm

hamei wrote:
geo wrote:anyway i just give up and looking forward to that other seller maybe i can convince him to drop the price a lil bit.. 5000RMB still a bit painful :)

Don't even consider it, geo. If you buy something from Japan they say "It's junk and bad !" if it even has a tiny scratch. If you look at anything unusual (aka anything that's not a cheapo peecee) in China, it's been drop-kicked through the goal posts of life about three hundred times but they want a million five for it. And they won't bargain. They have no idea what it is and can't even turn it on but by god, they know it's worth san shi wan rmb.

They are idiots. They can keep their beloved crap forever. You will see gloriously overpriced trash that's been on taobao for years. Literally years. Things like a 195 mhz pimm for an Octane for $800 ...


haha thanks hamei, ok will totally give up then, lost my appetite ;) yeah, no wonder my O2 laptop has a broken LCD when arrive :( that's why my recent purchase i let it post to our HK office, i think much safer there ;) hahahah indeed!! the seller said he doesn't know how to operate it but only knows he can sell it for that price geeez very annoying..

hahaha that's what i told my self, just let them have it until it rot! :) my God.. yeah also notice those horrible prices.. there's a good sgi seller from gz area, i think will try to check it out in person someday ;)
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Re: IBM RS/6000 Thinkpad Laptop "Model 860"

Unread postby hamei » Thu Nov 15, 2012 7:45 pm

geo wrote: ... no wonder my O2 laptop has a broken LCD when arrive :(

Yuan tong and shen feng are okay. The rest are shit, total shit. Kick it across the floor, down the steps, throw it out the window ... sometimes I hate peasants. We'd be better off if the shipping companies hired chimpanzees.

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Re: IBM RS/6000 Thinkpad Laptop "Model 860"

Unread postby geo » Thu Nov 15, 2012 8:15 pm

hamei wrote:Yuan tong and shen feng are okay.

ok noted thanks! but hmm yuan tong they said has not a good reputation on punctuality? so we always us SF if local :)

hamei wrote:The rest are shit, total shit. Kick it across the floor, down the steps, throw it out the window ... sometimes I hate peasants. We'd be better off if the shipping companies hired chimpanzees.

my GOD! even if it got fragile stickers? geezz wahahaahah then planet of the apes will happen hehe
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