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Unread postby IRISSERVICE » Thu Apr 07, 2005 8:34 am

abs0 wrote:
IRISSERVICE wrote:LOL, I think were we went off the topic alittle.. So i'm just going to use the HP-UX on the box.... I have 11i V1, but just ordered 11i V2 , so next week i will do install.


If you are looking for freeware for HP-UX, check out these sites:

http://hpux.cs.utah.edu/

http://www.software.hp.com/


Thanks

Had this one
http://hpux.cs.utah.edu/
But I used the Uk site which gets updated first, check out the new look
http://hpux.connect.org.uk/

Did not have the other thanks.

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Unread postby IRISSERVICE » Thu Apr 07, 2005 8:36 am

abs0 wrote:
IRISSERVICE wrote:LOL, I think were we went off the topic alittle.. So i'm just going to use the HP-UX on the box.... I have 11i V1, but just ordered 11i V2 , so next week i will do install.


Ah, one more thing: when you do get 11i v2, make sure it is a PI version (which supports both PA-RISC and Itanium2). There are v2 out there that are for Itanium2 only.


Ok doing research and it looks like V2 does not fully support my system, Make have to stick with V1.. :(

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Unread postby philv » Thu Apr 07, 2005 2:12 pm

hamei wrote:
yetanotheririxuser wrote: Thats why all IT Globals (SUN,HP,IBM and of course SGI promote, by example, linux over their unices. cause customers all cry for linux.


Sun is promoting Linux over Solaris ? When did this happen ? Jonathan Schwartz will be interested to hear this ...

http://blogs.sun.com/roller/page/jonathan/


Sun has a severe problem with one hand not knowing what the other hand is doing. One part of SUN is heavily emphasizing Linux migration, the other isn't.

I seriously recommend Debian Linux for HP PA-RISC hardware, just because it is much easier to maintain and use. The only catch is if you have a Visualize FX card, in which case you may be better off running HP until the driver for the Visualize FX card is finished.

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Unread postby yarrumevets » Fri Apr 22, 2005 8:15 pm

I wouldn't consider putting Debian GNU/Linux on it any more than I'd consider porting FreeDOS to it - GNU/Linux has its place, and that place is on PCs (in the self-important opinion of my humble self).

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Unread postby IRISSERVICE » Fri Apr 22, 2005 9:16 pm

HP-UX 11i Installed and its awesome...
Very fast... A little getting use to compared to Irix.. But nice.

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Unread postby Satoru » Tue May 31, 2005 6:30 am

That's what makes me hate the IT world :)
PARisc machines are cheap and fast... but userfriendliness is not part of theyr DNA :(
I've just won a C3600 (8600/550Mhz and 8 memory slots) to upgrade from my current B2000 (8500/400 and 4 memory slots)... and the B2000 is already way faster than my R12K300 for interactive usage.
Too bad that Gnome is outdated, CDE is a pain, the community is close to nonexistant and so on...

Marco/Sat

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Unread postby abs0 » Wed Jun 01, 2005 2:56 am

Satoru wrote:That's what makes me hate the IT world :)
PARisc machines are cheap and fast... but userfriendliness is not part of theyr DNA :(
I've just won a C3600 (8600/550Mhz and 8 memory slots) to upgrade from my current B2000 (8500/400 and 4 memory slots)... and the B2000 is already way faster than my R12K300 for interactive usage.
Too bad that Gnome is outdated, CDE is a pain, the community is close to nonexistant and so on...

Marco/Sat


Have you given AfterStep a try? While it may not be the greatest GUI of all, it does give you some flexibility...

http://hpux.ece.ualberta.ca/hppd/hpux/X11/WM/AfterStep-2.00.04/

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Unread postby Onyx_RE2 » Sun Jun 05, 2005 7:55 pm

HP-UX is a great server OS but a lousy desktop OS.
I use several machines running HP-UX (a C3000 PA-RISC at home and a ZX2000 IA64 machine at work) and it's a chore to do most desktop tasks.
Just getting XV to compile took a bit more effort than I expected.
Check out the university of Utah software repository for decent open-source stuff (no XV however....). The HP website also has some decent items for download: (check them out also if you have a Tru64 machine).

http://software.hp.com/

Some enterprise software is available for free download (Oracle makes their products free for download).
Good luck to all the HP-UX fans out there (maybe we can start a similar page to Nekochan's for HP-UX?)

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Unread postby abs0 » Sun Jun 05, 2005 8:29 pm

Onyx_RE2 wrote:Just getting XV to compile took a bit more effort than I expected.
Check out the university of Utah software repository for decent open-source stuff (no XV however....). The HP website also has some decent items for download: (check them out also if you have a Tru64 machine).



You can download a copy of compiled XV for HP-UX from here:
http://www.theflatnet.de/pub/hp-ux/DEPOT.HP/

I can't find a copy of compiled gimp-2.x for HP-UX though.

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Unread postby Onyx_RE2 » Sun Jun 05, 2005 8:37 pm

thanks abs0 for the info on the XV depot download!!

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Unread postby Dubhthach » Mon Jun 06, 2005 5:51 am

yarrumevets wrote:I wouldn't consider putting Debian GNU/Linux on it any more than I'd consider porting FreeDOS to it - GNU/Linux has its place, and that place is on PCs (in the self-important opinion of my humble self).


Well that might be true, but at least HP released most of their docs on their PA-Risc machines, i havn't seen SGI do anything like that.

http://www.openpa.net/
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Unread postby Satoru » Wed Jun 08, 2005 8:56 am

Having a nekochan-like resource for HP-UX hardware would be greatm for me.
Unfortunatly my spare time is quite limited :( as Luigi just landed in my family (5 weeks old now) :D
I can make available some computing horsepower (HPUX or Irix) and a basic line 24x7 (256kbit) to start the experiment if we find someone that wants to take the programming/design task for the site and someone wanting to port personal productivity tools to HPUX that will be of general interest.
We may also try a poll on the HPUX newsgroup to find the level of interest.

Marco/Sat

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Unread postby Onyx_RE2 » Tue Jul 26, 2005 2:14 am

I am firing up the old c3000 and j6000's.
Let's start a list of software we want ported over (excluding what's available on the existing freeware sites).

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Unread postby IRISSERVICE » Tue Jul 26, 2005 3:37 pm

Heres My list

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Onyx_RE2 were in NYC are you?


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