rx4640 loses USB keyboard support when booting OpenVMS

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rx4640 loses USB keyboard support when booting OpenVMS

Unread postby paulfred » Fri Dec 18, 2015 7:55 pm

Today I finally applied for a new hobbyist license for my rx4640 but I seem to be missing something in the boot procedure. I set my vga console as primary in the EFI and proceed to boot OpenVMS 8.4 from the install DVD, only to get stuck at the "Please enter time and date" prompt. It seems as if my USB keyboard isn't recognized anymore, caps lock light doesn't work either.
I've tried two different keyboards, both are exhibiting the same symptoms. Did I forget to set a variable somewhere?
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Re: rx4640 loses USB keyboard support when booting OpenVMS

Unread postby paulfred » Sat Dec 19, 2015 4:09 pm

I did some digging online and found out that apparently OpenVMS on I64 isn't able to accept USB input during boot at all. This means that a serial console seems to be the only input method until the X server has been initialized.
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Re: rx4640 loses USB keyboard support when booting OpenVMS

Unread postby urbancamo » Sat Dec 19, 2015 5:51 pm

I also found that I needed a straight HP keyboard for console to work on the ZX6000 (and probably by implication RX2600) - various other brands or anything with a PS-2 -> USB adapter was a no-no.
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Re: rx4640 loses USB keyboard support when booting OpenVMS

Unread postby Alver » Fri Jan 15, 2016 1:38 am

paulfred wrote:I did some digging online and found out that apparently OpenVMS on I64 isn't able to accept USB input during boot at all. This means that a serial console seems to be the only input method until the X server has been initialized.

Hrm. That would imply I installed VMS on mine using the console, which sounds *very* unlikely (my serial console is my 8086, and it's been hooked up to another machine for ages). Where did you get that info?

I'm getting the itch to boot the thing again now to verify :D
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Re: rx4640 loses USB keyboard support when booting OpenVMS

Unread postby Knuckx » Sat Jan 30, 2016 6:27 pm

paulfred wrote:I did some digging online and found out that apparently OpenVMS on I64 isn't able to accept USB input during boot at all. This means that a serial console seems to be the only input method until the X server has been initialized.

urbancamo wrote:I also found that I needed a straight HP keyboard for console to work on the ZX6000 (and probably by implication RX2600) - various other brands or anything with a PS-2 -> USB adapter was a no-no.


I have a rx2620, and currently use a dual PS/2 to USB adapter, attached to an old Apex OutLook KVM, attached to a Alps Trackpad and an IBM Model M (UK layout). This setup works fine with my quad boot - Windows Server 2008 R2 SP1, OpenVMS 8.4 w/Update 1000, HP-UX 11i V3 BOE, and Debian Linux 7 (from a USB memory stick) - although HP-UX sometimes freaks out over the trackpad.

OpenVMS on I64 works fine using the iLO VGA and onboard USB for the boot console, as does every other OS I have tried; my system has not been set for a serial primary console since I recieved it.
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Re: rx4640 loses USB keyboard support when booting OpenVMS

Unread postby urbancamo » Sun Jan 31, 2016 2:16 am

Using the vga console was fixed in firmware not available to the rx2600 or zx6000 so for OpenVMS you are stuck with serial. The management processor card vga is not available except via serial/network

This is all from memory mind!
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