Digital PWS 500au gfx card

HP/DEC/Compaq workstations/servers and operating systems (HP-UX, Tru64, OpenVMS, NonStop, etc.)
Forum rules
Any posts concerning pirated software or offering to buy/sell/trade commercial software are subject to removal.
User avatar
Indyboy
Posts: 223
Joined: Tue Nov 21, 2006 9:05 am
Location: Somewhere in Hungary

Digital PWS 500au gfx card

Unread postby Indyboy » Tue Apr 21, 2009 11:13 am

Can somebody provide me a list of supported gfx cards on this machine on Tru64? Are there any PC cards which working in this box?

Thanks in advance,
Indyboy
:Indigo: || Apple PowerMacintosh G4 MDD || Sun Ultra 20 || Sun Ultra 10 || Sun Ultra 5 || Sun SparcStation IPX || INMOS B004 Transputer board

ramq
Posts: 771
Joined: Fri Jan 25, 2008 6:06 am
Location: Sweden

Re: Digital PWS 500au gfx card

Unread postby ramq » Tue Apr 21, 2009 12:17 pm

I suggest you start looking here:

http://www.tru64.org/pages.php?page=Hardware
:O3200: :Fuel: :Indy: :O3x02L:

User avatar
Indyboy
Posts: 223
Joined: Tue Nov 21, 2006 9:05 am
Location: Somewhere in Hungary

Re: Digital PWS 500au gfx card

Unread postby Indyboy » Tue Apr 21, 2009 12:42 pm

The URL is very helpful, thanks a lot!!! :)
:Indigo: || Apple PowerMacintosh G4 MDD || Sun Ultra 20 || Sun Ultra 10 || Sun Ultra 5 || Sun SparcStation IPX || INMOS B004 Transputer board

SAQ
Posts: 5769
Joined: Wed Jul 19, 2006 8:37 am
Location: Renton, WA

Re: Digital PWS 500au gfx card

Unread postby SAQ » Tue Apr 21, 2009 4:04 pm

Off the top of my head for non-DEC cards I can recommend S3 Trio64V+ (works in every PCI Alpha I've tried them in) and almost any Permedia2 card (Elsa GLoria, some Creative Graphics Blasters). Permedia3 cards are supposed to work OK, too, but they're harder to come by.

Note that your system is a EV56 so the Radeon 7ks won't work in it :( . I have the same problem, and fortunately discovered this before spending money on a PCI Radeon.
Damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead!

Living proof that you can't keep a blithering idiot down.

:Indigo: :Octane: :Indigo2: :Indigo2IMP: :Indy: :PI: :O3x0: :ChallengeL: :O2000R: (single-CM)

User avatar
R-ten-K
Posts: 1856
Joined: Mon Nov 15, 2004 10:36 pm
Location: Nor Cal

Re: Digital PWS 500au gfx card

Unread postby R-ten-K » Tue Apr 21, 2009 9:12 pm

I have used a vanilla PCI Radeon 7500 sans any issues with both OpenVMS and Tru64 on an Alpha DS20
"Was it a dream where you see yourself standing in sort of sun-god robes on a
pyramid with thousand naked women screaming and throwing little pickles at you?"

User avatar
tgc99
Posts: 118
Joined: Fri Jun 09, 2006 10:21 am
Location: Denmark
Contact:

Re: Digital PWS 500au gfx card

Unread postby tgc99 » Wed Apr 22, 2009 12:05 am

SAQ wrote:Note that your system is a EV56 so the Radeon 7ks won't work in it :(

While some EV56 platforms may have problems due to their SRM being too old atleast the PWS (Miata) is known to have an SRM that works with many (most?) generic Radeon 7x00 PCI boards.

I've had a Sapphire Radeon 7000 in my PWS433a for years and it works just fine.

-tgc
:PI: :Indigo: :Indy: :Indigo2IMP: :Octane:

User avatar
theinonen
Posts: 360
Joined: Wed Feb 21, 2007 11:32 am
Location: Finland

Re: Digital PWS 500au gfx card

Unread postby theinonen » Wed Apr 22, 2009 1:18 am

tgc99 wrote:
SAQ wrote:Note that your system is a EV56 so the Radeon 7ks won't work in it :(

While some EV56 platforms may have problems due to their SRM being too old atleast the PWS (Miata) is known to have an SRM that works with many (most?) generic Radeon 7x00 PCI boards.

I've had a Sapphire Radeon 7000 in my PWS433a for years and it works just fine.

-tgc


I can confirm that. I use Radeon 7500 on my AlphaPC 164LX, but on Alphastation 500 the same card will not work.

Matrox Millenium cards should also work well.

SAQ
Posts: 5769
Joined: Wed Jul 19, 2006 8:37 am
Location: Renton, WA

Re: Digital PWS 500au gfx card

Unread postby SAQ » Wed Apr 22, 2009 5:01 pm

Matrox cards aren't supported under DEC OSes as anything other than a dumb 640x480x4 framebuffer. I'm pretty sure that they work with SRM, but once the system boots they're not too good (I've got one of those on the pile of cards I've tried with the AlphaServer).

They work well with Linux Alpha, though.

What's the SRM date in your machine? I wonder if a Radeon will work in a 1000A 5/333.
Damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead!

Living proof that you can't keep a blithering idiot down.

:Indigo: :Octane: :Indigo2: :Indigo2IMP: :Indy: :PI: :O3x0: :ChallengeL: :O2000R: (single-CM)

User avatar
Indyboy
Posts: 223
Joined: Tue Nov 21, 2006 9:05 am
Location: Somewhere in Hungary

Re: Digital PWS 500au gfx card

Unread postby Indyboy » Thu Apr 23, 2009 2:27 am

I don't have any Alpha atm but was offered a PWS500au with 500MHz CPU, 256MiB memory, 9GiB with non-working gfx card. What do you think how much is it worth?
:Indigo: || Apple PowerMacintosh G4 MDD || Sun Ultra 20 || Sun Ultra 10 || Sun Ultra 5 || Sun SparcStation IPX || INMOS B004 Transputer board

ramq
Posts: 771
Joined: Fri Jan 25, 2008 6:06 am
Location: Sweden

Re: Digital PWS 500au gfx card

Unread postby ramq » Thu Apr 23, 2009 2:53 am

PWS500au are 'OK' models, but what you really want is the last iteration of those boxes which were the XP1000 workstation.
Other options are the more modern XP900/DS10 models which sport EV6/EV67-class CPUs.

If it wasn't so much trouble with taking machines home from work (paper-issues), cleaning/testing, packing and shipping them, I could offload *several* XP900's we have in storage at work.
Heck, we've got atleast 40 of them which looks like they're going for the recycler some day or another...
:O3200: :Fuel: :Indy: :O3x02L:

User avatar
Indyboy
Posts: 223
Joined: Tue Nov 21, 2006 9:05 am
Location: Somewhere in Hungary

Re: Digital PWS 500au gfx card

Unread postby Indyboy » Thu Apr 23, 2009 3:01 am

Damn, it'd be great to have one of them ;) So what is your guess for the pws500au price?

Thanks a lot.
:Indigo: || Apple PowerMacintosh G4 MDD || Sun Ultra 20 || Sun Ultra 10 || Sun Ultra 5 || Sun SparcStation IPX || INMOS B004 Transputer board

User avatar
jan-jaap
Posts: 4141
Joined: Thu Jun 17, 2004 11:35 am
Location: Wijchen, The Netherlands

Re: Digital PWS 500au gfx card

Unread postby jan-jaap » Thu Apr 23, 2009 4:22 am

I have a PWS433 with 768MB RAM, a Radeon 7x00, and the biggest L3 cache option (2MB or 4MB, dunno).

I don't know what these things fetch these days, but I'm open to offers.
Now this is a deep dark secret, so everybody keep it quiet :)
It turns out that when reset, the WD33C93 defaults to a SCSI ID of 0, and it was simpler to leave it that way... -- Dave Olson, in comp.sys.sgi

Currently in commercial service: Image :Onyx2:(2x) :O3x02L:
In the museum: almost every MIPS/IRIX system.
Wanted: GM1 board for Professional Series GT graphics (030-0076-003, 030-0076-004)

kramlq
Posts: 926
Joined: Tue Sep 20, 2005 5:10 pm
Location: IRL

Re: Digital PWS 500au gfx card

Unread postby kramlq » Thu Apr 23, 2009 4:57 am

Indyboy wrote:Damn, it'd be great to have one of them ;) So what is your guess for the pws500au price?

Thanks a lot.

The last 500au I saw on eBay.de (in the last week or so) went for about 80€. XP1000's (again on eBay.de) go for much more. Typically €250-€500+ depending on configuration and bidding competition.

@ramq
:o Is it not possible to save any of those 40 machines from going to the recycler? In terms of RISC boxes, Alphas are quite rare in Europe. This ranks up there with that mass SGI slaughter in America that Ian once mentioned.

ramq
Posts: 771
Joined: Fri Jan 25, 2008 6:06 am
Location: Sweden

Re: Digital PWS 500au gfx card

Unread postby ramq » Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:02 am

kramlq wrote: :o Is it not possible to save any of those 40 machines from going to the recycler? In terms of RISC boxes, Alphas are quite rare in Europe. This ranks up there with that mass SGI slaughter in America that Ian once mentioned.

Well, I guess it is. I'll really have to think about this a couple of times, but maybe it's doable.

I didn't know they were that rare in Europe? And we hade about 150+ of'em at some point in time...
:O3200: :Fuel: :Indy: :O3x02L:

kramlq
Posts: 926
Joined: Tue Sep 20, 2005 5:10 pm
Location: IRL

Re: Digital PWS 500au gfx card

Unread postby kramlq » Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:59 am

ramq wrote:I didn't know they were that rare in Europe? And we hade about 150+ of'em at some point in time...

I am not really referring to how many were sold originally. More that the number of Alphas appearing on european eBay sites has always seemed far fewer than the number of SGIs or Suns or RS6000s. I've no idea why. Even over here, DEC/Compaq was very popular brand, yet they just don't seem to appear on the 2nd hand market locally - I've currently only got a rackmount server, and I had to get that from the US.


Return to “HP/DEC/Compaq”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest