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HP/DEC/Compaq workstations/servers and operating systems (HP-UX, Tru64, OpenVMS, NonStop, etc.)
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Unread postby porter » Fri Feb 23, 2007 12:57 pm

theinonen wrote:Not knowing the exact model of the alphaserver I think that safest choice would be linux. It has support for more systems than BSD.


I would be happy to debate that. I suggest you review the number of architectures NetBSD supports....

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Unread postby Cauldronborn » Fri Feb 23, 2007 1:12 pm

Nothing on the front, just says Digital. There is what looks to say model number in the back but the it is almost completely covered up by the top of the case. I'll try dismantle it a little bit later to get a more definite answer or perhaps it is in the prom.
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Unread postby R-ten-K » Fri Feb 23, 2007 2:06 pm

Again, google is your friend, try if you can identify the machine here:


http://people.freebsd.org/~wilko/Alpha-gallery/
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Unread postby Cauldronborn » Fri Feb 23, 2007 10:47 pm

Well my question was more geared to what people's opinions/impressions are of using different OS's on Alpha and so Google is pretty darn useless. Perhaps I worded it badly but I already know I can use Tru64, OpenVMS, NT, Free/Net/OpenBSD, and various versions of Linux.
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Unread postby Cauldronborn » Fri Feb 23, 2007 10:57 pm

Ok did some searching and turns out it is a Digital branded Alphaserver 1200.
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Unread postby porter » Fri Feb 23, 2007 11:48 pm

Cauldronborn wrote:Well my question was more geared to what people's opinions/impressions are......


My golden rule is to run the original vendor's OS on any machine unless there is a good reason not to (ie, task for machines, availability, license etc).

If you want to run Linux why bother getting fun, obscure and esoteric hardware?

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Unread postby R-ten-K » Sat Feb 24, 2007 12:27 am

Cauldronborn wrote:Well my question was more geared to what people's opinions/impressions are of using different OS's on Alpha and so Google is pretty darn useless. Perhaps I worded it badly but I already know I can use Tru64, OpenVMS, NT, Free/Net/OpenBSD, and various versions of Linux.


Google is your friend when it comes to find out what your machine model was, not really hard if you spent the proverbial 5 minutes :-). Not knowing which box you own is quite the hurdle when it comes to give you an opinion.


An AS 1200, depending on the memory configuration should perform quite nicely w. OpenVMS. You can obtain a hobbyist kit really cheap.

Tru64 is pretty much dead, and there is nothing other than advfs with the builting storageworks trays that makes it interesting.

I am partial to netbsd, it is well supported and it flies on 21164 based systems.
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Unread postby SupremeCmdr » Sat Feb 24, 2007 12:51 am

Personally I'd go for either OpenVMS or Tru64 in that order.
You'll probably find more useful stuff on VMS, I believe it comes with just about everything you could want including compilers, TCP/IP and XWindows.
And from my humble point of view, is much more interesting and exotic.
While Tru64 is a bit more crippled and hard to find good freeware for.

So many cool things to learn about Bliss compilers, DCL, non-Unix OS, DecNet ...
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Unread postby theinonen » Sat Feb 24, 2007 12:53 am

porter wrote:
theinonen wrote:Not knowing the exact model of the alphaserver I think that safest choice would be linux. It has support for more systems than BSD.


I would be happy to debate that. I suggest you review the number of architectures NetBSD supports....



Systems = different alpha systems, not different architectures

Anyway, NetBSD should work on AS1200 since it is similar than AS4100.

FreeBSD works, but probably only in console. (X won't work on AS4100)

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Unread postby porter » Sat Feb 24, 2007 1:42 am

theinonen wrote:FreeBSD works, but probably only in console. (X won't work on AS4100)


xdm....

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Unread postby Cauldronborn » Sat Feb 24, 2007 2:27 am

I would have thought there wasn't much I could do with OpenVMS. Oh just remembered I got an Alphastation 200/233 at the same time as the other machine. At least that one was labeled properly.
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Unread postby Ebbi » Sat Feb 24, 2007 6:24 am

One harddisk with Tru64, another with OpenVMS.
In my opinion there is no reason to run an operating system, which also runs on x86 architecture.

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Unread postby ItsMeOnly » Sat Feb 24, 2007 9:30 am

Ebbi wrote:One harddisk with Tru64, another with OpenVMS.
In my opinion there is no reason to run an operating system, which also runs on x86 architecture.

Can't agree more, I wouldn't buy such a machine to run an operating system that runs on an ordinary PC (trying to get AS600 running so I can install VMS and Tru64 as well (VMS goes to Jensen).

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Unread postby R-ten-K » Sat Feb 24, 2007 5:30 pm

Ebbi wrote:One harddisk with Tru64, another with OpenVMS.
In my opinion there is no reason to run an operating system, which also runs on x86 architecture.


Some people are interested in learning the innerworkings of non-x86 platforms.
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Unread postby Cauldronborn » Sat Feb 24, 2007 5:40 pm

Hmm, turns out I have a copy of Tru64 5.1. Not sure its is all here. I only have one OS disk labeled volume 1, and another that says Firmware update v5.8, oh and a Software doc cd.
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