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Unread postby R-ten-K » Sat Feb 24, 2007 5:43 pm

Cauldronborn wrote:Hmm, turns out I have a copy of Tru64 5.1. Not sure its is all here. I only have one OS disk labeled volume 1, and another that says Firmware update v5.8, oh and a Software doc cd.


Tru64 should come with at least 3 CDs: 1 base/installation + 2 Associate products.

Depending on the package you have, you also need the license pak(s). Otherways I believe it only lets you operate in single user mode, and some services need a license pak to be enabled.
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Unread postby The Keeper » Sat Feb 24, 2007 5:43 pm

R-ten-K wrote:Some people are interested in learning the innerworkings of non-x86 platforms.


Yeah, some people are strange. Developers, I could see. But normal users? Why bother... I'm in the process of refurbishing my MicroVAX 3300 and PDP-11/53, and will be running VMS and RSX-11M on them, respectively, and see no need to install anything else. I wouldn't install Linux on an SGI box, so why would I install a freeware BSD on a VAX?

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Unread postby R-ten-K » Sat Feb 24, 2007 5:53 pm

For tastes there are colours, I guess.

Linux is not that well supported on most SGI machines. However, *BSDs/Linux do support AXP boxes fairly well, so the analogy is not 100% accurate. Also, not everyone has access to the media or licenses for the original OS.

Tru64 is for all intents and purposes dead, so unless the box is to be used to reminisce about the good old day, it makes sense to use a somewhat still supported OSOS or OpenVMS.

SCSI disks are cheap, and since it sounds the system is going to be used to simply dick around, just install whatever...
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Unread postby Cauldronborn » Sat Feb 24, 2007 5:58 pm

Well I was mostly looking for something still somewhat useful and supported as well.
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Unread postby regan_russell » Sat Feb 24, 2007 6:10 pm

R-ten-K wrote:For tastes there are colours, I guess.

Linux is not that well supported on most SGI machines.

SCSI disks are cheap, and since it sounds the system is going to be used to simply dick around, just install whatever...


Gentoo (Linux) runs just fine on one of my Octanes.... It still runs Irix 95% of the time. I run Linux on it because I can. Choice is a damn fine thing, but sometimes I refuse to choose, and just say damn it run everything. It takes less than a minute to swap boot disks and given the situation I would dual boot between Tru64 and OpenVMS and with enough disks and the ability to switch between SRM and ARC firmware, Linux and *BSD too.


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Unread postby The Keeper » Sat Feb 24, 2007 8:39 pm

R-ten-K wrote:Tru64 is for all intents and purposes dead, so unless the box is to be used to reminisce about the good old day, it makes sense to use a somewhat still supported OSOS or OpenVMS.


LOL, if current support is a requirement, then you'd probably have to retire your Indy's and Indigo2's. What about the PDP's? Guess I may as well put them out to the curb. ;-)

Yeah, everyone has their own take on what is the best way to go. I'm a purist, but that's just me. Heck, most of my workstation collection just sits there unused, so in that regard, it really doesn't even matter what's installed on them.

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Re: tru64 packages

Unread postby Krokodil » Sun Sep 20, 2015 11:23 am

foetz wrote:sure, will give it a try ...

EDIT: okay this was a bust. configure options ignored, obviously never tested it on a real 64bit system and likely not on anything else but glibc/gcc. when i hit an unresolved symbol while linking nothing but sudo's own objects i trashed it :twisted:
if i may ask, you're looking for bash, gcc, sudo, gnutar ... why do you wanna run tru64? :P i mean you obviously wanna simulate linux so why not going for that in the first place?


Alpha support is almost non existent on Linux nowadays. OpenBSD and NetBSD support it, FreeBSD dropped support a long time ago in 7.0. Tru64 is the only official UNIX the platform ever had.
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Re: tru64 packages

Unread postby foetz » Sun Sep 20, 2015 12:35 pm

oh i didn't mean linux on the alpha but linux in general

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Re: tru64 packages

Unread postby miod » Sun Sep 20, 2015 11:38 pm

Krokodil wrote:Tru64 is the only official UNIX the platform ever had.

Allow me to disagree. Linux was kind of supported at some point, since user guides for the late models (DS20, DS25) explicitely mention Linux and how to set up the SRM parameters for it to boot, with example boot logs.
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Re: tru64 packages

Unread postby mia » Mon Sep 21, 2015 4:39 am

didn't they even port ccc to linux?
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Re: tru64 packages

Unread postby duck » Mon Sep 21, 2015 7:53 am

mia wrote:didn't they even port ccc to linux?


Yes, ISTR running ccc on FreeBSD in linux emulation at one point
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Re: tru64 packages

Unread postby Krokodil » Mon Sep 21, 2015 9:23 am

miod wrote:
Krokodil wrote:Tru64 is the only official UNIX the platform ever had.

Allow me to disagree. Linux was kind of supported at some point, since user guides for the late models (DS20, DS25) explicitely mention Linux and how to set up the SRM parameters for it to boot, with example boot logs.


Linux was supported in the past, but support has almost entirely dried up since then. Only Gentoo still supports it as far as I know. But as for official certified UNIX, Tru64 was the only one.
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