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Re: What SUN hardware do we have?

Unread postby dukzcry » Thu Feb 18, 2010 4:01 pm

emgaron wrote:Uhm - for all I know, the U5/10 use proprietary Sun memory, not standard EDO. At least I've never heard otherwise.
This source has otherwise point :lol:

emgaron wrote:It got replaced with a dual PIII/550 - which was faster, less noisy and drew about 20W less...
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Re: What SUN hardware do we have?

Unread postby emgaron » Fri Feb 19, 2010 1:14 am

dukzcry wrote:
emgaron wrote:Uhm - for all I know, the U5/10 use proprietary Sun memory, not standard EDO. At least I've never heard otherwise.
This source has otherwise point :lol:

Well:
This RAM isn't quite proprietary, but it's hard to come by.

Probably doesn't make too much of a difference in real life... :?

dukzcry wrote:
emgaron wrote:It got replaced with a dual PIII/550 - which was faster, less noisy and drew about 20W less...
I 've made perjury playful decision of having no more than 1x x86 gear in my location :oops:. Do not mind :oops:.

Oh, it's not that I cannot understand that - I wasn't too eager to make that swap, either - but at times, practical issues have to take precedence. At least the PIII is also running OpenBSD... :)
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Re: What SUN hardware do we have?

Unread postby bhtooefr » Fri Feb 19, 2010 1:46 am

And a PogoPlug would be almost as fast as that Pentium III, would pull 5 watts plus the power consumption of hard drives, and isn't x86 - it's ARM (although Linux, not *BSD.) ;)

Anyway, I was under the impression that Sun's particular flavor of EDO *WAS* proprietary. Not that it's hard to find on eBay cheaply.
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Re: What SUN hardware do we have?

Unread postby emgaron » Fri Feb 19, 2010 2:41 am

bhtooefr wrote:And a PogoPlug would be almost as fast as that Pentium III, would pull 5 watts plus the power consumption of hard drives, and isn't x86 - it's ARM (although Linux, not *BSD.) ;)

As a firewall plus web server plus file server plus mail server plus DNS server plus DHCP server plus ....? Not from the descriptions I've found... ...and Linux is not going to be a firewall in my network... But you're right, there are more efficient options - that's on the TODO list... :mrgreen:
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Re: What SUN hardware do we have?

Unread postby bhtooefr » Fri Feb 19, 2010 7:32 am

It's a single-core 1.2 GHz Marvell Kirkwood chip. I forget the performance numbers, though, but it should be able to do all of that sufficiently. The only problem is I/O, because the standard PogoPlug only has USB for connecting mass storage, but there's a clone that has eSATA.
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Re: What SUN hardware do we have?

Unread postby dukzcry » Tue Mar 02, 2010 2:58 am

bhtooefr wrote:and isn't x86 - it's ARM (although Linux, not *BSD.)

Netra X1/Fire V100/120 are almost (especially Fire V100 which D-EJ915 suggested on #nekochan, cause of possibility to attach cheap IDE <-> CF adapter) good for my home router needs. There are good until you will produce very heavy bandwidth and/or run very CPU-load things.
Also be informed that onboard Davicom network chips create high I/O load on PCI bus, but since machine itself doesn't have onboard PCI slots and not so many shared device on this bus it's not so dangerous.

I'd rather pick "single-core 1.2 GHz Marvell Kirkwood" for my workstation needs than use it for routering.
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Re: What SUN hardware do we have?

Unread postby bhtooefr » Tue Mar 02, 2010 7:17 am

A 1.2 GHz Marvell Kirkwood is significantly slower than even an Atom. I wouldn't use it as a workstation, unless you wanted to run RISC OS or something, and there's better choices for that. (And, besides, the PogoPlug has no video controller.)

And, consumer routers are usually 200 MHz MIPS CPUs, although there's a migration towards ARM.
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Re: What SUN hardware do we have?

Unread postby Megatron-UK » Thu Mar 04, 2010 11:16 am

Work-wise...

sixteen or so dual-cpu Opteron V20z's w/4GB ram, running web application stacks (Python, Java and Ruby)... gradually getting retired!
six 2-processor dual-core Opteron X4100's w4-8GB ram, running various web services, a couple with StorEdge 3120 JBOD used as light directory or database systems etc.
three 2-processor quad-core Opteron X4240's w/32GB ram each, running our main Citrix Xen virtualisation pool
a single-processor quad-core Xeon X4140 w/16GB ram providing shared storage for Xen
and an ancient Netra T1 running as one of our mail relays

In terms of hardware, there's nothing much to distinguish between the x64 Sun kit and anyone else, really.... where it scores highly for me is the built-in, standard LOM and monitoring facilities which, IMO, wipes the floor with similar Dell and HP equipment.
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Unread postby Gerhard.Lenerz » Mon Mar 15, 2010 1:42 pm

Gerhard.Lenerz wrote:SS20, SS10, SS4, SS4, IPX, IPX, SS2... that's it. Except from one of the SS4s all Suns are running Solaris 2.6.


Some (4) years have passed since then and my Sun stack has grown considerably: SS1 clone, SS2, IPC, IPX, IPX, SS10, SS20, SS20, SS20, SS4, SS4, SS5, SS5, Ultra 1, Ultra 2, Ultra 5

I've probably mentioned that some time ago, but the one with the most historic value for me is the Ultra 2 which was the webserver for some of my projects in the early 2000s. Back then it was owned and operated by a good friend and fellow collector.

One of the SS5 is the latest addition, actually I've just opened the box. Seen an SS5 with CPU fan installed on ebay and hooray it's really an SS5-170 with HDD, CD-ROM and diskette drive.
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Re: What SUN hardware do we have?

Unread postby kramlq » Wed Mar 17, 2010 5:17 am

I've picked up a few new systems as well since I last posted. I currently have:
- Sun Ultra 5: UltraSPARC IIi 366MHz, 512Mb, 20Gb EIDE Disk, SunVideoPlus, SunPCi IIpro.
- Sun Ultra 1 (200E I think, but sadly it was severely damaged due to the worst packaging effort I'd ever seen. Hopefully good for parts if I ever find another)
- Sun SPARCstation 20MP: 2 x Ross hyperSPARC 125MHz, 448Mb, SX + 4Mb VSIMM, 2 x 9Gb, SunSwift + WideSCSI, SunVideo, Sun PCMCIA.
- Sun SPARCstation 5: 170MHz TurboSPARC, 256Mb, 2 x 9Gb, TGX, SunSwift + WideSCSI, SunPC 5x86 (Missing the SPARCstation 5 badge sadly, but otherwise in great condition).
- Tadpole SPARCbook 3GX (110MHz microSPARC II) 128Mb, 520Mb HDD
Tadpole SPARCbook 3XP: (85MHz microSPARC II, 32Mb, 520Mb HDD
I bought these two 'spares or repair' systems from eBay. A bit of a gamble, as I didn't know if they had disks, RAM or even if they still worked. To my surprise, after finding a suitable AC adapter recently, both systems work. The 3XP had SunOS 4.1.4 installed, but its case took a real battering during transit. The 3GX is in good condition, has Solaris 2.5.1 installed, and was maxed with 128Mb RAM. They have no batteries (or covers), but still, its nice to finally own portable SPARC machines. OpenWindows seems so primitive.
- Sun SPARCstation IPX: 40MHz, 48Mb, SunSwift + WideSCSI, Sun PCMCIA.
- Sun JavaStation-NC: 100MHz MicroSPARC IIep, 64Mb RAM, 8Mb Flash

I still haven't managed to find a Ross SPARCplug or SPARCplug Solo, a JavaStation brick, or to justify the cost of a nice Tadpole Viper laptop :)

@emGee - I had thought 64Mb was the official max RAM for a JavaStation. Does 128Mb work ok?

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Re: What SUN hardware do we have?

Unread postby bhtooefr » Wed Mar 17, 2010 11:30 am

kramlq: The 2.5.1 install set comes with a CD with CDE and WABI.
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Re: What SUN hardware do we have?

Unread postby kramlq » Wed Mar 17, 2010 1:47 pm

bhtooefr wrote:kramlq: The 2.5.1 install set comes with a CD with CDE and WABI.

Yes, I bought 2.5.1 media on eBay, and it has a disk with CDE and WABI for Solaris X86, SPARC (and also PPC :o ). But the Tadpoles have some custom connectors for SCSI and Ethernet, so I have no way to get anything on or off it for the moment. My 3GX also seems to have had SoftWin on it, but it was deleted.

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Re: What SUN hardware do we have?

Unread postby bhtooefr » Wed Mar 17, 2010 3:44 pm

Custom connector for *ETHERNET*? Ouch.
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Re: What SUN hardware do we have?

Unread postby miod » Thu Mar 18, 2010 2:18 am

bhtooefr wrote:Custom connector for *ETHERNET*? Ouch.


Yes, it's a micro-AUI connector (the same found on SS5, but at least on SS5 there is an RJ45 connector so you don't really need the adaptor cable).

This is kinda like the Apple AAUI connector found on 68k macs... except AAUI adaptors are easier to find.
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Re: What SUN hardware do we have?

Unread postby bhtooefr » Thu Mar 18, 2010 6:02 am

Ah, fair enough. My PowerLite combines AUI and both serial ports on some D-shaped connector that is smaller than D-sub, but it has RJ-45.
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