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Is it Solaris 1.0 ?

Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2017 4:56 am
by escimo
I had big luck to get an ISO image which possibly contains SunOS 4.1.1 for eg. sun3x (Sun-3/80).
The interesting part is, that this could be Solaris 1.0 release. Is that confirmed? I only nowing the tape version.

Header of file _COPYRIGHT

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SunOS 4.1.1 SUNBIN
sun4c, sun4, sun3x, sun3
CD-ROM (boot format) 1 of 1
704-1004-10

File AVAIL_ARCHES (available architectures)

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sun4.sun4c.sunos.4.1.1
sun4.sun4.sunos.4.1.1
sun3.sun3x.sunos.4.1.1
sun3.sun3.sunos.4.1.1

Re: Is it Solaris 1.0 ?

Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2017 1:51 pm
by ClassicHasClass
Sun did call at least some versions of SunOS 4 "Solaris 1." However, it has really very little to do architecturally with Solaris in the strictest sense and I always found that confusing/obnoxious.

Re: Is it Solaris 1.0 ?

Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2017 5:42 pm
by escimo
I read about the SunOS 4.1.1_U1 branded "Solaris 1.0" after Solaris 2.x was released and it was shipped only on CD-ROM, but this version seems to be more a base 4.1.1. At this point I have to proof/validate this...

So you're right, at the core it's the SunOS 4.1.1 (BSD based) and has less in common with SysV-based SunOS 5.x versions

Re: Is it Solaris 1.0 ?

Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2017 2:13 pm
by kjaer
Solaris 1.x is a marketing name for bundled SunOS 4.x + OpenWindows. SunOS 5 wasn't sold separately from Solaris 2.

I'm not sure what the question is?

Re: Is it Solaris 1.0 ?

Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2017 3:51 pm
by vishnu
According to Bill Calkins' "History of Solaris," the last release of BSD-based SunOS was 4.1.4, the first Solaris release (he doesn't mention a version number) was based on SVR4:

http://cse.unl.edu/~witty/class/csce351/howto/history_of_solaris.pdf

Re: Is it Solaris 1.0 ?

Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2017 5:15 pm
by escimo
That's all correct. The term "Solaris" is a combination of SunOS 5.x (SysV based) + ONC Notworking + Windows Environment, versioning beginning from 2.0. SunOS 4.1.x was the main OS line for the new SPARC architecture of that time, Solaris 2.0 was still in development. For transition from BSD Unix to SVR4 marketing relabeled some SunOS 4.1.x releases with Solaris 1.x. In fact Solaris 2.0 was a development only release for sun4c w/o SMP capabilities (source: Solaris Internals)

kjaer wrote:I'm not sure what the question is?
From a historic point of view I was interested in the fact if the image is the one containing the later renamed/rebranded/relabeled "Solaris 1.0", which was only distributed on CD-ROM media.

This not seems to be the fact. Nevertheless interessting...

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SunOS 4.1.1 CD includes binaries for all platforms
Source: http://egle.lanet.lv/ftp/unix/sun-info/sunflash/1990/Nov/23.10.4.1.1

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Announcing Solaris 1.0.1 AnswerBook
Source: http://ftp.lanet.lv/ftp/sun-info/sunflash/1992/Mar/39.15.answerbook

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(...) now supported on Solaris 1.0 (SunOS 4.1.1 Rev B) and (...)
Source:http://www.tucows.apollo.lv/ftp/unix/sun-info/sunflash/1993/May/52.00-April-1993-Table-Of-Contents

So first SunOS 4.1.1 Revision B (alias SunOS 4.1.1_U1) seems to be the relabeled "Solaris 1.0".
I saw CD-ROM labeled "Solaris 1.0.1" (SunOS 4.1.2) but never a CD-ROM labeled "Solaris 1.0".

Re: Is it Solaris 1.0 ?

Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 10:40 am
by kjaer
Yeah. I have the 1.0.1 disc, which is, as you say, 4.1.2 + OW v2.(something). I haven't personally seen a 1.0; 4.1.1_U1 seems like the right SunOS release.

OpenWindows was unbundled for SunOS 4, except with Solaris 1.x. I'd say if your disc has any version of OpenWindows on it, it probably is an image of some Solaris 1.x disc, and that at this time "1.0" would represent an unproven best guess about which version specifically.

If it has no OpenWindows, it's not Solaris.

Re: Is it Solaris 1.0 ?

Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2017 3:43 am
by kokoboi
I have ow2 on cdrom for sun4 and sun3, so 1.0 might exists.