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Re: Rumors of Oracle ending Solaris development

Unread postby josehill » Thu Jan 19, 2017 7:48 am

foetz wrote:as far as interpreting that roadmap image goes, that doesn't tell much so pretty much the whole article is guesswork.

By not telling much, the roadmap image says a lot. It says, "We're going to do just enough to fulfill our long term contracts with governments, and we'll give other organizations with deep pockets just enough to keep them buying support contracts while they migrate to other solutions, but Solaris and SPARC are finished. We're just not ready to publish an official EOL date yet, since we might be able to extract some more cash in contract negotiations as long as we pretend that we are undecided about it."

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Re: Rumors of Oracle ending Solaris development

Unread postby ClassicHasClass » Thu Jan 19, 2017 5:10 pm

Yup, that's pretty much it.

So ... that leaves IBM and HP as the last proprietary architecture Unix vendors, and I don't see HP/UX living a lot longer, at least on Itanic. At least POWER is somewhat healthy.
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Re: Rumors of Oracle ending Solaris development

Unread postby Raion-Fox » Thu Jan 19, 2017 6:18 pm

AIX on POWER is very healthy. Although your poor Stockholm is stuck on 7.1 or less. There's also IBM i on POWER as well and POWERVM.
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Re: Rumors of Oracle ending Solaris development

Unread postby foetz » Thu Jan 19, 2017 8:08 pm

josehill wrote:
foetz wrote:as far as interpreting that roadmap image goes, that doesn't tell much so pretty much the whole article is guesswork.

By not telling much, the roadmap image says a lot. It says, "We're going to do just enough to fulfill our long term contracts with governments, and we'll give other organizations with deep pockets just enough to keep them buying support contracts while they migrate to other solutions, but Solaris and SPARC are finished. We're just not ready to publish an official EOL date yet, since we might be able to extract some more cash in contract negotiations as long as we pretend that we are undecided about it."

yeah that's one possibility. unfortunately a likely one but not the only one anyway

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Re: Rumors of Oracle ending Solaris development

Unread postby vishnu » Fri Jan 20, 2017 4:01 pm

Can't understand their reluctance because from Alan Coopersmith's twitter banner it looks like Oracle has been using Solaris 12 internally for almost three years:
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Re: Rumors of Oracle ending Solaris development

Unread postby foetz » Fri Jan 20, 2017 6:47 pm

maybe 12 was just the name for dev versions. would be a bit strange to keep a version internal for 3 years

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Re: Rumors of Oracle ending Solaris development

Unread postby japes » Fri Jan 20, 2017 7:26 pm

Raion-Fox wrote:AIX on POWER is very healthy. Although your poor Stockholm is stuck on 7.1 or less. There's also IBM i on POWER as well and POWERVM.


I have a POWER6 machine here and it saddened me a little to know I was stuck on 7.1. But I don't have a connection for newer versions right now anyway so I'll just pretend. Not that it's that big of deal, AIX is like Solaris, companies deploy machines and leave them with the version it came out of the box running until it dies. Even putting old versions on newer machines just to keep things the same.

Pretty sad to see Solaris coming to an end, but the days of dropping a Sun box in to run NFS, NIS, DNS, and DHCP are gone. I think Oracle could have stretched it out longer if they pushed turnkey systems a little harder but then they'd ignore the small box that lets sys admins experiment and do dev work. With Microsoft pricing SQL Server Enterprise the way they do Oracle could try and recapture some of the landscape - especially if they had BI features. And it could be running on Solaris on Intel or SPARC if they wanted.
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Re: Rumors of Oracle ending Solaris development

Unread postby foetz » Tue Jan 24, 2017 7:22 pm

looks like solaris will stay for, well, quite some more time http://www.zdnet.com/article/oracle-sol ... very-mode/

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Re: Rumors of Oracle ending Solaris development

Unread postby ClassicHasClass » Tue Jan 24, 2017 10:09 pm

All that means is that some corporate types objected and pointed to legal stuff in their service contracts, so Larry's going to toss them an LTS bone.
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Re: Rumors of Oracle ending Solaris development

Unread postby foetz » Wed Jan 25, 2017 5:50 am

works for me. the result is having something serious (read non-linux) for another 17 years. could've been worse :-)

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Re: Rumors of Oracle ending Solaris development

Unread postby jan-jaap » Mon Sep 04, 2017 12:53 am

If the usual suspects are to be believed, Oracle has just axed the entire hardware division, and all but a handful of Solaris personnel.

I guess that leaves Oracle with ... JAVA :mrgreen:
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Re: Rumors of Oracle ending Solaris development

Unread postby foetz » Mon Sep 04, 2017 7:26 am

jan-jaap wrote:I guess that leaves Oracle with ... JAVA :mrgreen:

yikes :lol:

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Re: Rumors of Oracle ending Solaris development

Unread postby escimo » Mon Sep 04, 2017 12:21 pm

jan-jaap wrote:If the usual suspects are to be believed, Oracle has just axed the entire hardware division, and all but a handful of Solaris personnel
Not really a surprise but interesting! And where you can read it? - Only read about EVP John Fowler left Oracle. Thx

EDIT: found an article in German. Done.
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Re: Rumors of Oracle ending Solaris development

Unread postby ClassicHasClass » Mon Sep 04, 2017 12:30 pm

Good news for IBM and, to a lesser extent, HPE. They'll be more than happy to swoop in to fill the void and IBM can point to its long POWER support for shops nervous about going non-prop. The x86 shops probably don't make Snoracle enough bread, either.

If Larry's intent was to ship the whole stack, he certainly farked that up.
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Re: Rumors of Oracle ending Solaris development

Unread postby vishnu » Tue Sep 05, 2017 8:36 pm

Solaris 11.4 was supposed to be released at Oracle OpenWorld in early October. Perhaps they'll have a squadron of flying pigs overhead to herald the occasion... :roll:
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