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Well, there may be "some" who would still ask what is a debugger, but more often than not (at least in my surroundings), it would be you asking them about stuff excited to learn just about anything.
It might be partially related to banks trimming down and leaving the better ones, but the ones who I know (and sit next to me) are very very good .
Maybe you simply were unlucky to end up with those "others" on the end of the line

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Generalizations are sloppy at best, of course, and I'm using an extreme example - from a specific period in time. There were some folks doing things right, and rumors of impressive things at some firms - sadly, not the ones I worked at. Some of my peers were quite talented though, and there were a few hedge funds wise enough to put them to work.

Since that time financial firms of all stripes have been recruiting Ph.Ds in math and science like nobody's business. Nothing attracts talent like talent, so the level has been rising - so no, the idea that you work with some very competent people doesn't surprise me.

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Mmm, yeah. Sure. How many phuds can dance on the head of a pin ? If all they are doing is figuring out ways to optimize javascript so they can mine our data more thoroughly to sell more worthless crap next christmas ... even talent can be worthless shit, you know. Check out the recent press release from the Leader in Technical Computing, Silicon Garbage, Inc. Obviously there's a company who attracted the best and brightest.

Anyway ... a sort-of Solaris / NFS question. I can't think I'm the only one who ever wanted to do this so there should be a simple workaround ?

NFS was designed to not let you re-share nested directory structures. By that I mean, if you have three guys who need access to an entire tree with an additional ten who need access to a subset of that tree, you can't do it by simply sharing the root directory to Group A and a directory halfway down the tree to Group W. NFS won't let you, although that would be the easiest way I can imagine to achieve the goal. I can imagine a few ways to do this but they all seem like a kluge. What would be the smart and clean way to do this ?

My initial thought is this:

• First, configure the top level of the hierarchy to have permissions set for Group A to access it and its sub-directories, e.g. "owned by Group A". Use chown/chgrp and chmod to accomplish this, preventing other groups from accessing/editing files as desired. At this point, Group A has access to everything in the hierarchy.
• Next, configure the part of the hierarchy that needs to be accessible to both Group A and Group W to have permissions set to allow only Group W members to access it, e.g. "owned by Group W". As in the previous step, use chown/chgrp and chmod to adjust settings. Now, Group A is excluded from the W sub-directories unless Group A members have superuser privileges, which I presume they don't.
• Finally, add the members of Group A to Group W in the /etc/group file so that they are members of both groups. This will allow those members to access both the A directories and the W directories.
• Depending on the OS, Group A members might need to use the newgrp command to "become W" when they need to access the W directories.

For this to work well, every machine needs to use the same set of UIDs and group IDs. If you have a handful of machines and users, manually sync'ing the passwd and group files is feasible, but if you have more than a handful of either, consider using a directory service like NIS.

I suppose ACLs would be another approach, but sometimes they can be more complex and finicky to implement.

That's what I was afraid you were going to say

Sorry, hamei. I guess there is always Novell Netware!

Group W? Is there a bench involved?

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bench... you mean like a sports team..?

My first thought was chroot.. but I typed "chroot solaris" into google and it seemed like a hassle but I eventually thought if you want to get away from NFS and try sftp there is the following page: http://www.minstrel.org.uk/papers/sftp/

And that page links to: http://chrootssh.sourceforge.net/

Just some random stuff I thought I would throw out there...

R.

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Yuck to all of this I think I'll just split up the directories in a parallel fashion rather than vertically ... but seems strange to me that there isn't a simple solution. This has got to be a common requirement ?

Did you try making a symlink down into the level you wanted and putting the symlink into /etc/exports? Not 100% sure it will work but it's got decent odds.

-Mike

Did Hamei get sent there for trying to use NFS in an unnatural manner? Does he have to sing the whole story in five-part harmony?

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My ticket just came in the mail It all works okay -- still having some problems with Blastwave but otherwise, not so bad. And the whatever-name-it-has-today web server is great. Much nicer than Apache. Try it if you get a chance. Solaris is okay once you get it going. It's the setup that's killer -- but M$ "Services for Ewenuchs" is giving me fits. Wanna talk SLOW ? The Irix boxes are happy as clams, the Windows disaster takes about an hour to view a directory. I've searched around and tried a few things - change to tcp instead of udp, etc - but still awful.

Any Mickeysofters here who have had luck with this pos ? I can sacrifice a chicken or a snake if necessary. Turtle is out of the question tho, I can't stand to kill or eat a turtle. It's the little feet, I just can't do it.

About the initial question, I'd say ... maybe If it's on sparc hardware, for sure. If god meant Jags to have Chebby engines, they'd have been born that way. For other hardware - if it's a nothing box, you don't care, don't want any hassles at all, a Loonix family member would probably be fine. But if you are willing to put in extra effort in the beginning and you are not using the Java desktop, Solaris is much better.

I've never had NFS running reliably on Windows. Services for unix was(is) buggy and took a few hours of playing with options to get things right. In the end I found it much easier to use Sharity Lite to mount windows shares. However beware that Sharity for IRIX 6.2 will crash the file manager and famd. Not sure what causes the crash but a note in the original source says it only works on mounts less than 4gb.

Thanks, I had the same experience with Sharity. P.O.S.

Actually, I have not much desire to share anything from Windows, I dislike the damn thing. The files go on the Solaris swerver, I want Windows to be able to read and write to NFS on a reliable platform

um, just throwing this out there but ...

How about SAMBA..?


R.

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